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Aren't most or all of those other companies Chinese? Apple still stands out there, especially given their "pro-privacy" slant.

• outsidetheparty 9y ago
  True. (And you're right that it contradicts Apple's privacy stance outside of China, which justifies examining their stance here a little more closely; my swipe at the Apple-mention-as-clickbait may have been a bit of a knee-jerk. Apologies for that.) But I would be shocked if the other major players (Facebook, Google, etc) aren't also participating in this; it seems to be the price of entry if they want to continue doing business there.
  • fooker 9y ago
    Google and Facebook are banned in China.
    • outsidetheparty 9y ago
      Well then. I stand corrected, thanks. Guess they chose not to pay the price of entry. Good for them
      • tuxxy 9y ago
        Google left after Chinese state sponsored hackers attacked their servers, IIRC. Check out Operation Aurora.
        • debt 9y ago
          That’s at least what Google said publicly was the reason they left China.
    • polskibus 9y ago
      What about Microsoft? Is it participating?
      • wmf 9y ago
        http://fortune.com/2017/05/23/microsoft-claims-unique-cloud-status-in-china/ http://fortune.com/2017/05/23/microsoft-claims-unique-cloud-... https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/china/china-welcome https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/china/china-welcome
      • Spooky23 9y ago
        Microsoft uses a local partner to remain at arms length.
        • polskibus 9y ago
          Is that like IBM in Edwin Black's book?
• IBM 9y ago
  Amazon also had to sell to local partners. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-amazon-cloud/amazon-sells-off-china-cloud-assets-as-tough-new-rules-bite-idUSKBN1DE0CL https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-amazon-cloud/amazon...