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Citation needed. Also, you are being downvoted because you are making baseless claims and accusations; you are not being "silenced" or "censored".

by bmm6o 9y ago

leereeves 9y ago
> The End of Men ... What if modern, postindustrial society is simply better suited to women? https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end-of-men/308135/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end... > the rules intended to protect victims of sexual assault mean students have lost their right to due process https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/09/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-campus-rape-policy/538974/ https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/09/the-un... > professor Bret Weinstein refused to comply with students interested in 'social justice' that demanded a day without white people on campus https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/30/evergreen_state_college_students_demand_professor_leave_campus_on_no_white_people_day_he_refused.html https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/30/evergreen... > The ad said the [University of Louisville] Department of Physics and Astronomy “announces a tenure-track assistant professor position that will be filled by an African-American, Hispanic American or a Native American Indian.” http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/12/16/u-l-ripped-help-wanted-ad/77437116/ http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/12/16/u-l-ripped-h... Those are only examples to prove these claims aren't "baseless". If you're interested, I'm sure you can find more such incidents yourself. Also, while it sounds like you downvoted me, I'm not being downvoted (net). Perhaps there are more people out there who are aware of these things than you think.
- scarface74 9y ago
  And we could find anecdotes of just as many conservative colleges. Instead of finding anecdotes can you find a survey across college campuses? I could just as easily say that colleges don't support interracial marriage based on Bob Jones University but that would be intellectually dishonest.
  - leereeves 9y ago
    That's why I've carefully limited my statements and examples to leftist extremism at publicly funded universities and major media outlets. I want to point out the bias in mainstream society, not highlight a few extremists from either side. I'd be very interested if you could find examples of publicly-funded universities (as these universities are) telling black people not to come to campus or not to apply for a job. Or a respected mainstream media publication (equivalent to The Atlantic) reviewing a book discussing The End of Women.
- TheCoelacanth 9y ago
  > > The End of Men ... What if modern, postindustrial society is simply better suited to women? > https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end.. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end.... It's a complete mischaracterization to call that celebrating the end of men. If anything it is worrying about it.
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  - leereeves 9y ago
    I'd call it descriptive. I cite it because I like The Atlantic and because I think it's one of the more balanced articles on the subject. It covers both sides of the story, including people who seem to be celebrating.
    - TheCoelacanth 9y ago
      You'll have to be more specific. I'm struggling to find even a single paragraph that I would consider celebratory.
      - leereeves 9y ago
        > Hens rejoice; it’s the bachelor party that’s over. > Postgenocide Rwanda elected to heal itself by becoming the first country with a majority of women in parliament. (where female dominance is described as "healing") > In fact, the more women dominate, the more they behave, fittingly, like the dominant sex. > she and her girlfriend (played by Beyoncé) kill a bad boyfriend and random others in a homicidal spree and then escape in their yellow pickup truck, Gaga bragging, “We did it, Honey B.” That's just a few quotes from the article. I agree, it's mostly neutral. For true celebration, it's probably necessary to look elsewhere...like Beyoncé's song Run The World (Girls).
- bmm6o 9y ago
  > The End of Men ... What if modern, postindustrial society is simply better suited to women? TheCoelocanth already beat me to it, but this article doesn't do any celebrating about the "end of men". It's very sympathetic about how the changing US economy has gutted many traditionally-male fields. And in so far as support for Trump is driven by the economic uncertainty of men, it does a lot to explain that component. But your original claim is ridiculous. I don't have a lot of free time right now, do any of your links honestly support your argument?
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  - leereeves 9y ago
    It's a shame you don't have any free time. If you did, I'd recommend searching for "the future is female" and seeing how deep the rabbit hole goes. But since you don't, what exactly do you expect me to say here that will convince you in 30 seconds?
    - scarface74 9y ago
      If you search for any loaded term on Google it will lead to confirmation bias. Can you find any stats showing that a White male has a harder time in America getting a job, getting a loan, getting a mortgage or lease, getting into college, etc than an equally qualified non White male?
      - leereeves 9y ago
        Confirmation bias? Hillary Clinton said that after the election. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-future-is-female-hillary-clinton-says-in-first-post-inauguration-statement-135749907.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-future-is-female-hillary-clin... If we agree that's a loaded term, perhaps we can also agree that in terms of dividing people by race and gender, Trump isn't so different from many leaders on the left. He's merely the first Republican who plays the game of identity politics that the left has played for so long. I think it's a terrible shame that the dream of a race-blind, gender-blind society was abandoned...but the left, not Trump, is to blame for that.

Citation needed. Also, you are being downvoted because you are making baseless claims and accusations; you are not being "silenced" or "censored".

by bmm6o 9y ago

Citation needed. Also, you are being downvoted because you are making baseless claims and accusations; you are not being "silenced" or "censored".

leereeves 9y ago

> The End of Men ... What if modern, postindustrial society is simply better suited to women? https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end-of-men/308135/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end... > the rules intended to protect victims of sexual assault mean students have lost their right to due process https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/09/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-campus-rape-policy/538974/ https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/09/the-un... > professor Bret Weinstein refused to comply with students interested in 'social justice' that demanded a day without white people on campus https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/30/evergreen_state_college_students_demand_professor_leave_campus_on_no_white_people_day_he_refused.html https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/30/evergreen... > The ad said the [University of Louisville] Department of Physics and Astronomy “announces a tenure-track assistant professor position that will be filled by an African-American, Hispanic American or a Native American Indian.” http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/12/16/u-l-ripped-help-wanted-ad/77437116/ http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/12/16/u-l-ripped-h... Those are only examples to prove these claims aren't "baseless". If you're interested, I'm sure you can find more such incidents yourself. Also, while it sounds like you downvoted me, I'm not being downvoted (net). Perhaps there are more people out there who are aware of these things than you think.

scarface74 9y ago
And we could find anecdotes of just as many conservative colleges. Instead of finding anecdotes can you find a survey across college campuses? I could just as easily say that colleges don't support interracial marriage based on Bob Jones University but that would be intellectually dishonest.
- leereeves 9y ago
  That's why I've carefully limited my statements and examples to leftist extremism at publicly funded universities and major media outlets. I want to point out the bias in mainstream society, not highlight a few extremists from either side. I'd be very interested if you could find examples of publicly-funded universities (as these universities are) telling black people not to come to campus or not to apply for a job. Or a respected mainstream media publication (equivalent to The Atlantic) reviewing a book discussing The End of Women.
TheCoelacanth 9y ago
> > The End of Men ... What if modern, postindustrial society is simply better suited to women? > https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end.. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end.... It's a complete mischaracterization to call that celebrating the end of men. If anything it is worrying about it.
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- leereeves 9y ago
  I'd call it descriptive. I cite it because I like The Atlantic and because I think it's one of the more balanced articles on the subject. It covers both sides of the story, including people who seem to be celebrating.
  - TheCoelacanth 9y ago
    You'll have to be more specific. I'm struggling to find even a single paragraph that I would consider celebratory.
    - leereeves 9y ago
      > Hens rejoice; it’s the bachelor party that’s over. > Postgenocide Rwanda elected to heal itself by becoming the first country with a majority of women in parliament. (where female dominance is described as "healing") > In fact, the more women dominate, the more they behave, fittingly, like the dominant sex. > she and her girlfriend (played by Beyoncé) kill a bad boyfriend and random others in a homicidal spree and then escape in their yellow pickup truck, Gaga bragging, “We did it, Honey B.” That's just a few quotes from the article. I agree, it's mostly neutral. For true celebration, it's probably necessary to look elsewhere...like Beyoncé's song Run The World (Girls).
bmm6o 9y ago
> The End of Men ... What if modern, postindustrial society is simply better suited to women? TheCoelocanth already beat me to it, but this article doesn't do any celebrating about the "end of men". It's very sympathetic about how the changing US economy has gutted many traditionally-male fields. And in so far as support for Trump is driven by the economic uncertainty of men, it does a lot to explain that component. But your original claim is ridiculous. I don't have a lot of free time right now, do any of your links honestly support your argument?
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- leereeves 9y ago
  It's a shame you don't have any free time. If you did, I'd recommend searching for "the future is female" and seeing how deep the rabbit hole goes. But since you don't, what exactly do you expect me to say here that will convince you in 30 seconds?
  - scarface74 9y ago
    If you search for any loaded term on Google it will lead to confirmation bias. Can you find any stats showing that a White male has a harder time in America getting a job, getting a loan, getting a mortgage or lease, getting into college, etc than an equally qualified non White male?
    - leereeves 9y ago
      Confirmation bias? Hillary Clinton said that after the election. https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-future-is-female-hillary-clinton-says-in-first-post-inauguration-statement-135749907.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-future-is-female-hillary-clin... If we agree that's a loaded term, perhaps we can also agree that in terms of dividing people by race and gender, Trump isn't so different from many leaders on the left. He's merely the first Republican who plays the game of identity politics that the left has played for so long. I think it's a terrible shame that the dream of a race-blind, gender-blind society was abandoned...but the left, not Trump, is to blame for that.