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Yes, that’s because being conservative is socially okay. Being a Trump supporter is aligning with more than conservatism - it is signaling an acceptance of seve

Yes, that’s because being conservative is socially okay. Being a Trump supporter is aligning with more than conservatism - it is signaling an acceptance of several divisive and socially toxic ideas. Society should and will continue to shun this openly.

Chris2048 9y ago
> Society should and will continue Does society not include all the people that voted for Trump?
- scarface74 9y ago
  There is also a difference between a Trump voter and a Trump “supporter”. I know plenty of Republicans who held their noses and voted for Trump but don’t agree with his populist rants. They are not going to be wearing MAGA shirts or making excuses for him.
  - sjg007 9y ago
    No, if you voted for Trump you support him. You can't have it both ways.
    - scarface74 9y ago
      You really only have two choices. There are a lot of things that I didn’t like about the Democratic platform and especially Clinton, but I held my nose and voted for her. It just depends on what your biggest issues are.
      - sjg007 9y ago
        There is a third option which is that you could also not vote.
        scarface74 9y ago
        And by not voting, you don’t get to have your highest priorities addressed. If my highest priority were banning abortion, I would have definitely voted for Trump because he would appoint anti-abortion justices. If my highest priority was criminal justice reform - I would vote for Clinton. Yes, I know she and her husband were part of the problem in the 90s.
        sjg007 9y ago
        Your argument makes no sense and is predicated upon an unknown future. Logically, you support who you vote for. Every politician breaks campaign promises and Trump is no exception. Now if you donate or otherwise contribute a lot of money to a candidate then they will support you. That much is clear and it does not take a lot of money. The only reason we don't have gun control is because the gun lobby has enough votes in Congress.
        scarface74 9y ago
        Define "gun control" with specifics? I'm not against gun control for the reason most people are. For me, it's more practical. The government has never been able to successful ban anything that people wanted - e.g. "The War on Drugs". When they do have a "War" on anything, it's usually not evenly applied. Ronald Reagan was all for gun control in the 60s as was the NRA when the Black Panther Party started legally walking around with guns in California (the Muliford Act). You want to see gun control? Start encouraging as many minorities as possible to apply for open carry permits.
        ggg9990 9y ago
        That just effectively hands your vote to some other idiot.
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Chris2048 9y ago

> Society should and will continue Does society not include all the people that voted for Trump?

scarface74 9y ago
There is also a difference between a Trump voter and a Trump “supporter”. I know plenty of Republicans who held their noses and voted for Trump but don’t agree with his populist rants. They are not going to be wearing MAGA shirts or making excuses for him.
- sjg007 9y ago
  No, if you voted for Trump you support him. You can't have it both ways.
  - scarface74 9y ago
    You really only have two choices. There are a lot of things that I didn’t like about the Democratic platform and especially Clinton, but I held my nose and voted for her. It just depends on what your biggest issues are.
    - sjg007 9y ago
      There is a third option which is that you could also not vote.
      - scarface74 9y ago
        And by not voting, you don’t get to have your highest priorities addressed. If my highest priority were banning abortion, I would have definitely voted for Trump because he would appoint anti-abortion justices. If my highest priority was criminal justice reform - I would vote for Clinton. Yes, I know she and her husband were part of the problem in the 90s.
        sjg007 9y ago
        Your argument makes no sense and is predicated upon an unknown future. Logically, you support who you vote for. Every politician breaks campaign promises and Trump is no exception. Now if you donate or otherwise contribute a lot of money to a candidate then they will support you. That much is clear and it does not take a lot of money. The only reason we don't have gun control is because the gun lobby has enough votes in Congress.
        scarface74 9y ago
        Define "gun control" with specifics? I'm not against gun control for the reason most people are. For me, it's more practical. The government has never been able to successful ban anything that people wanted - e.g. "The War on Drugs". When they do have a "War" on anything, it's usually not evenly applied. Ronald Reagan was all for gun control in the 60s as was the NRA when the Black Panther Party started legally walking around with guns in California (the Muliford Act). You want to see gun control? Start encouraging as many minorities as possible to apply for open carry permits.
      - ggg9990 9y ago
        That just effectively hands your vote to some other idiot.
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