> We just have a mix of libertarian-leaning and social-democratic-leaning people arguing with each other (with a moderate majority for the libertarians). Indee

> We just have a mix of libertarian-leaning and social-democratic-leaning people arguing with each other (with a moderate majority for the libertarians). Indeed, I decided I'm going to bow out of politics conversations. It's relevant tangentially, but it adds noise and friction. I'd rather connect cooperatively with like-minded people in entrepreneurship and technology, I don't want to get into arguments, build bad will, etc. with people here. Like Delirium says, at this point the argument quality isn't even particularly insightful.