Spot on. If the captain and the navigators are incompetent, and the shipping company send you to the wrong port, then no crew can save the company. The places

Spot on. If the captain and the navigators are incompetent, and the shipping company send you to the wrong port, then no crew can save the company. The places were "Agile" goes bad, are the places where just about every management process goes bad. If too many don't know how how the sausage is made you get "list guys" running around with lists and metrics that don't make sense, reporting to committees filled with other "list guys", an ever increasing admin-per-developer ratio, and a productivity that slowly falls down to zero. Faking process and order is much, much easier than actually managing the semi-chaos that a large development process is.