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Well, it is super useful do be able to do exact arithmetic. For example, to not get scammed when you buy anything, or share a bill. I've seen American universit

by meuk 9y ago

Well, it is super useful do be able to do exact arithmetic. For example, to not get scammed when you buy anything, or share a bill. I've seen American university students who don't know how to compute a percentage of a given amount - so I'm not very impressed by common core math to be honest. That being said, it's probably a cultural thing too. I noticed that in the USA (at least in California?) it is customary to exclude the taxes from the price that is displayed on the price tag. Since the tax rate is different for different products, it's pretty hard to compute the actual price that you pay, and in practice you just take whatever you need and don't have an idea what you pay. In addition, it is not very usual to split the bill (I'm not talking about simply dividing the price by the number of people, but about actually computing the price of the stuff you ate, and not paying more than that). When I go to the grocery store, I usually keep a sum of the price in my head while I pick products. That way I'll know if something is off at the counter.

Fnoord 9y ago
> When I go to the grocery store, I usually keep a sum of the price in my head while I pick products. That way I'll know if something is off at the counter. I wouldn't be able to CBA w/that during grocery shopping, I got way more to do whilst grocery shopping. Adhering my shopping list whilst checking for deals, and getting the correct items and correct amount. Figuring out in my head what combines with what recipe-wise. For grocery shopping I ask for the receipt and then verify afterwards while discussing with my partner. Sometimes something's off in our advantage, sometimes in our disadvantage. Since its grocery shopping, we're talking about a few EUR here and there. If its non-grocery shopping, then I take quicker note. As a rule of thumb the following rule appears to apply for me: the more expensive the item(s) the more cautious I am (denotes quality), but the more items the less cautious I am as well (denotes quantity). Why? Because its easier to do the former, and the latter becomes more difficult till we get to the CBA point. Instead, I go for some deals, and then allow myself some treats as well, but never too much of either. The result is I mostly follow the grocery shopping list but I never know beforehand how much I exactly gotta pay, but I pay electronic either way; not with cash. I noticed when I've been in Germany and paid with cash, I took far better note of prices. Incidentally, groceries are generally cheaper in Germany as well...
jfaucett 9y ago
> When I go to the grocery store, I usually keep a sum of the price in my head while I pick products. That way I'll know if something is off at the counter. I do the same thing, but it does depend on how much I'm shopping. If its big for the whole family I keep a rounded tally in my head, and use that sum to determine whether or not I look at the actual receipt to see if something was wrong. If on the other hand I'm buying say less than 15 items then I'll keep up with the actual to the cent sums when I'm paying in cash. You get a weird look sometimes when you get to the counter, they say 23.45 and you hand them the money immediately. I've done this ever since I can remember, but growing up in the USA you just had the added step that you needed to know what the sales tax rate was for the area you were currently in, and if you didn't know it then I'd just use a default rate of 8%.
omnius19 9y ago
The mathematics standards for Common Core were released in June 2010. So college freshmen this year would have been in 5th grade (seniors in 8th grade) at the earliest when introduced to Common Core style mathematics. Probably later, since schools needed time to adapt to the new curriculum and train teachers in the new methods. Seeing as how Common Core places a heavy emphasis on developing skills in grades 1-8, I don’t think that current college students are a good benchmark for the Common Core standards. Talk to some college students in 5-10 years to get a better idea of how things are progressing.
- threatofrain 9y ago
  Also I would say that early CA Common Core for math basically just pushes up the current curriculum up about half a year, a mild improvement; more importantly it's a cleaner spec for outcomes. It doesn't really re-order the curriculum, it uses a few new terms, there's mildly more emphasis on word problems, and there's earlier introduction to linear sequences. It's just a few touch-ups here and there, presumably to prepare kids better for Algebra 1. The whole reform is a modest start.

by meuk 9y ago

Fnoord 9y ago

> When I go to the grocery store, I usually keep a sum of the price in my head while I pick products. That way I'll know if something is off at the counter. I wouldn't be able to CBA w/that during grocery shopping, I got way more to do whilst grocery shopping. Adhering my shopping list whilst checking for deals, and getting the correct items and correct amount. Figuring out in my head what combines with what recipe-wise. For grocery shopping I ask for the receipt and then verify afterwards while discussing with my partner. Sometimes something's off in our advantage, sometimes in our disadvantage. Since its grocery shopping, we're talking about a few EUR here and there. If its non-grocery shopping, then I take quicker note. As a rule of thumb the following rule appears to apply for me: the more expensive the item(s) the more cautious I am (denotes quality), but the more items the less cautious I am as well (denotes quantity). Why? Because its easier to do the former, and the latter becomes more difficult till we get to the CBA point. Instead, I go for some deals, and then allow myself some treats as well, but never too much of either. The result is I mostly follow the grocery shopping list but I never know beforehand how much I exactly gotta pay, but I pay electronic either way; not with cash. I noticed when I've been in Germany and paid with cash, I took far better note of prices. Incidentally, groceries are generally cheaper in Germany as well...

jfaucett 9y ago

> When I go to the grocery store, I usually keep a sum of the price in my head while I pick products. That way I'll know if something is off at the counter. I do the same thing, but it does depend on how much I'm shopping. If its big for the whole family I keep a rounded tally in my head, and use that sum to determine whether or not I look at the actual receipt to see if something was wrong. If on the other hand I'm buying say less than 15 items then I'll keep up with the actual to the cent sums when I'm paying in cash. You get a weird look sometimes when you get to the counter, they say 23.45 and you hand them the money immediately. I've done this ever since I can remember, but growing up in the USA you just had the added step that you needed to know what the sales tax rate was for the area you were currently in, and if you didn't know it then I'd just use a default rate of 8%.

omnius19 9y ago

The mathematics standards for Common Core were released in June 2010. So college freshmen this year would have been in 5th grade (seniors in 8th grade) at the earliest when introduced to Common Core style mathematics. Probably later, since schools needed time to adapt to the new curriculum and train teachers in the new methods. Seeing as how Common Core places a heavy emphasis on developing skills in grades 1-8, I don’t think that current college students are a good benchmark for the Common Core standards. Talk to some college students in 5-10 years to get a better idea of how things are progressing.

threatofrain 9y ago
Also I would say that early CA Common Core for math basically just pushes up the current curriculum up about half a year, a mild improvement; more importantly it's a cleaner spec for outcomes. It doesn't really re-order the curriculum, it uses a few new terms, there's mildly more emphasis on word problems, and there's earlier introduction to linear sequences. It's just a few touch-ups here and there, presumably to prepare kids better for Algebra 1. The whole reform is a modest start.