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Very interesting! But there is quite literally zero cross-bracing in that structure, which leads me to believe this was designed by an architect and not a struc

Very interesting! But there is quite literally zero cross-bracing in that structure, which leads me to believe this was designed by an architect and not a structural engineer.

ansgri 9y ago
Do architects nowadays not have to be competent structural engineers? If so, it would amuse me greatly: how can you be entrusted in drawing new building shapes if you have no clue on their feasibility? In other words, have the word 'architect' devolved into a 'building (exterior & interior) designer'?
- nakedrobot2 9y ago
  Architects these days often seem to be large scale sculptors who inflict strange shapes on people who then have to live in or around them, without regard for engineering or human psychology.
  - mc32 9y ago
    Reminds me of the complaints and lawsuits[1] regarding the Stata building at MIT. Apparently in the beginning it had leaks and other lacks of fit and polish. [1]https://thetech.com/2007/11/09/lawsuit-v127-n53 https://thetech.com/2007/11/09/lawsuit-v127-n53
  - cjalmeida 9y ago
    Not really "these days". Unliveable spaces has a good longstanding tradition. Just check Le Corbusier and Niemayer works.
  - rdoherty 9y ago
    This is extremely common, check out the book "How Buildings Learn", which has a few chapters on this phenomenon. The type of buildings you are describing are "Magazine" (buildings that get on the cover of architecture magazines)
- nabla9 9y ago
  Architects have to know material physics, structural physics and structural engineering, but they don't need to have specialist level knowledge. There are architects who specialize in innovative structural designs and their work combines both.
- baud147258 9y ago
  From what I've heard, for high-profile 'designer' construction, the architect will draw the outside of the building and hands the design to engineers, who will have to add all the structures so that the building is usable and buildable.
ethagknight 9y ago
elevator cores are cross bracing
mseebach 9y ago
> Internationally recognised leader in timber engineering, Equilibrium Consulting, provided expertise on structural matters.
- swampthinker 9y ago
  Well I'll be damned.
Johnny555 9y ago
Doesn't that solid wood sheathing in the core of the building act as cross bracing?

Very interesting! But there is quite literally zero cross-bracing in that structure, which leads me to believe this was designed by an architect and not a structural engineer.

ansgri 9y ago

Do architects nowadays not have to be competent structural engineers? If so, it would amuse me greatly: how can you be entrusted in drawing new building shapes if you have no clue on their feasibility? In other words, have the word 'architect' devolved into a 'building (exterior & interior) designer'?

nakedrobot2 9y ago
Architects these days often seem to be large scale sculptors who inflict strange shapes on people who then have to live in or around them, without regard for engineering or human psychology.
- mc32 9y ago
  Reminds me of the complaints and lawsuits[1] regarding the Stata building at MIT. Apparently in the beginning it had leaks and other lacks of fit and polish. [1]https://thetech.com/2007/11/09/lawsuit-v127-n53 https://thetech.com/2007/11/09/lawsuit-v127-n53
- cjalmeida 9y ago
  Not really "these days". Unliveable spaces has a good longstanding tradition. Just check Le Corbusier and Niemayer works.
- rdoherty 9y ago
  This is extremely common, check out the book "How Buildings Learn", which has a few chapters on this phenomenon. The type of buildings you are describing are "Magazine" (buildings that get on the cover of architecture magazines)
nabla9 9y ago
Architects have to know material physics, structural physics and structural engineering, but they don't need to have specialist level knowledge. There are architects who specialize in innovative structural designs and their work combines both.
baud147258 9y ago
From what I've heard, for high-profile 'designer' construction, the architect will draw the outside of the building and hands the design to engineers, who will have to add all the structures so that the building is usable and buildable.

ethagknight 9y ago

elevator cores are cross bracing

mseebach 9y ago

> Internationally recognised leader in timber engineering, Equilibrium Consulting, provided expertise on structural matters.

swampthinker 9y ago
Well I'll be damned.

Johnny555 9y ago

Doesn't that solid wood sheathing in the core of the building act as cross bracing?