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What's the proper way to only show 'new' comments on HN?

by cygx 9y ago

usrusr 9y ago
Text search for " minute"? Haven't done that in a long time because it is so cumbersome. But the friction it adds is part of what shapes the discussions here. Adding a feature like that (or making it more visible if it already exists) could have unpredictable side effects, with symptoms almost impossible to trace back to the causing change.
- jstanley 9y ago
  > Text search for "minute" This is the sort of thing I love about the web, and composability in general I suppose. The people who designed the HN UI didn't think or care about that feature at all, but just by virtue of the fact that the user has powerful general-purpose tools at his disposal, and the HN UI is just as valid as content as the actual content is, the user can piece it together for himself. This would not be possible if HN were a traditionally-designed desktop application instead of a web page. The web returns us lots of the composability that was lost when "progressing" from CLI applications to GUI applications.
  - wruza 9y ago
    Iow, everything is searchable if you put it into Word-like text container. Of course Word had issues like jumping tables and blocks floating at wrong positions between versions, but who doesn’t.
  - KajMagnus 9y ago
    @cygx, @usrusr, @jstanley: Here's one way to show new comments at HN: https://www.talkyard.io/-32/how-hacker-news-can-be-improved-3-things https://www.talkyard.io/-32/how-hacker-news-can-be-improved-... — part 1: "Finding new comments". Video, + live demo if you click "Recent comments" in the upper right corner.
- u801e 9y ago
  > Text search for " minute"? That's not very intuitive. It's easier to see new replies to comments one posts by going to the comments view on one's own user profile page, but seeing new replies in general is definitely not (especially if you don't check for several hours). I think that traditional mail and news clients with their threaded view go it right for that purpose decades ago.
rasz 9y ago
dont know about proper, but https://github.com/raszpl/hackahackernews https://github.com/raszpl/hackahackernews

What's the proper way to only show 'new' comments on HN?

by cygx 9y ago

What's the proper way to only show 'new' comments on HN?

Text search for " minute"? Haven't done that in a long time because it is so cumbersome. But the friction it adds is part of what shapes the discussions here. Adding a feature like that (or making it more visible if it already exists) could have unpredictable side effects, with symptoms almost impossible to trace back to the causing change.

jstanley 9y ago
> Text search for "minute" This is the sort of thing I love about the web, and composability in general I suppose. The people who designed the HN UI didn't think or care about that feature at all, but just by virtue of the fact that the user has powerful general-purpose tools at his disposal, and the HN UI is just as valid as content as the actual content is, the user can piece it together for himself. This would not be possible if HN were a traditionally-designed desktop application instead of a web page. The web returns us lots of the composability that was lost when "progressing" from CLI applications to GUI applications.
- wruza 9y ago
  Iow, everything is searchable if you put it into Word-like text container. Of course Word had issues like jumping tables and blocks floating at wrong positions between versions, but who doesn’t.
- KajMagnus 9y ago
  @cygx, @usrusr, @jstanley: Here's one way to show new comments at HN: https://www.talkyard.io/-32/how-hacker-news-can-be-improved-3-things https://www.talkyard.io/-32/how-hacker-news-can-be-improved-... — part 1: "Finding new comments". Video, + live demo if you click "Recent comments" in the upper right corner.
u801e 9y ago
> Text search for " minute"? That's not very intuitive. It's easier to see new replies to comments one posts by going to the comments view on one's own user profile page, but seeing new replies in general is definitely not (especially if you don't check for several hours). I think that traditional mail and news clients with their threaded view go it right for that purpose decades ago.

rasz 9y ago

dont know about proper, but https://github.com/raszpl/hackahackernews https://github.com/raszpl/hackahackernews