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I looked at love for teaching school children. It looked great, except they unfortunately use some sexual names for many of the most common libraries (like anal

I looked at love for teaching school children. It looked great, except they unfortunately use some sexual names for many of the most common libraries (like anal and lube). Highly amusing I'm sure, but I'm afraid not safe for children!

loup-vaillant 9y ago
You don't have to give all the context to the children. And if they're not already old enough to understand what "anal" means, you can just say it's a butt joke (or maybe just leave them to their ignorant innocence, they can just believe it's a made up name for a time). If they are old enough, I'm afraid avoiding the word is going to save them. "Lube" is used in non-sexual context. You can escape the puritan "inappropriateness" by referring to mechanics. Also, how about replacing all sexual names by something else? A little sed script should be enough, right?
- CJefferson 9y ago
  In practice, modern teenagers are going to go to the love wiki to find libraries and documentation, that's the main place to find it. There is no point me giving them an incompatible variant, which won't let them take their programs home. Also, it's easy to say "oh kids, just tell them it's a joke", but in today's society, that is the kind of thing which could easily get one fired. If just one library was named sexually, it would be easy to say "oh, you are misreading that", but the pattern is obvious.
  - loup-vaillant 9y ago
    > In practice, modern teenagers are going to go to the love wiki to find libraries and documentation, Crap, so much for find & replace then. > in today's society, that is the kind of thing which could easily get one fired. Oh, that bad? Well, one more reason for me not to move where you live, I guess.
- TulliusCicero 9y ago
  The problem here is that even if the teacher does as you say, guess what will happen when the parents hear about it. If you guessed, "be really, really mad at the teacher and yell at the school administration", congrats, you win.
  - Tempest1981 9y ago
    Agreed -- and have seen it in action. It only takes a few vocal outraged parents to incite a riot, and shut everything down. Or get the teacher suspended. It's illogical, but emotion often trumps logic and rationality.
    - TulliusCicero 9y ago
      Well, I'd guess that it's less pure emotion, and more moral values, likely religiously-derived.
gkya 9y ago
None of those seem to exist in the standard libraries this package provides. Now one can (or has already) presumably put libraries with sensitive names in CPAN or PyPI or Debian Archives (e.g. libmoosex-, libsexy-, thefuck) or whatnot. Is Debian now an 18+ OS?
Pica_soO 9y ago
I recommend using another game-engine then- that uses lua. Unfortunately- the illusion that you can present a clean environment will be shattered rather swift, once one of them goes out to research for documentation and ends in any dev irc-channel. These guys can live on code, hentai and ramen alone for months- and that is not a clichee. My suggestion is to introduce a safe version of code and documentation via a repository and offer to get them any library they via that central repo. Yes its more preparation work, but its going to keep the project alive.
vanderZwan 9y ago
TIC-80 is a free Pico 8 clone, with slightly higher resolution, and Android support as well[0]. It also supports moonscript. The "Play" section has some really impressive stuff[1] [0] https://tic.computer/ https://tic.computer/ [1] https://tic.computer/play?cart=178 https://tic.computer/play?cart=178

loup-vaillant 9y ago

You don't have to give all the context to the children. And if they're not already old enough to understand what "anal" means, you can just say it's a butt joke (or maybe just leave them to their ignorant innocence, they can just believe it's a made up name for a time). If they are old enough, I'm afraid avoiding the word is going to save them. "Lube" is used in non-sexual context. You can escape the puritan "inappropriateness" by referring to mechanics. Also, how about replacing all sexual names by something else? A little sed script should be enough, right?

CJefferson 9y ago
In practice, modern teenagers are going to go to the love wiki to find libraries and documentation, that's the main place to find it. There is no point me giving them an incompatible variant, which won't let them take their programs home. Also, it's easy to say "oh kids, just tell them it's a joke", but in today's society, that is the kind of thing which could easily get one fired. If just one library was named sexually, it would be easy to say "oh, you are misreading that", but the pattern is obvious.
- loup-vaillant 9y ago
  > In practice, modern teenagers are going to go to the love wiki to find libraries and documentation, Crap, so much for find & replace then. > in today's society, that is the kind of thing which could easily get one fired. Oh, that bad? Well, one more reason for me not to move where you live, I guess.
TulliusCicero 9y ago
The problem here is that even if the teacher does as you say, guess what will happen when the parents hear about it. If you guessed, "be really, really mad at the teacher and yell at the school administration", congrats, you win.
- Tempest1981 9y ago
  Agreed -- and have seen it in action. It only takes a few vocal outraged parents to incite a riot, and shut everything down. Or get the teacher suspended. It's illogical, but emotion often trumps logic and rationality.
  - TulliusCicero 9y ago
    Well, I'd guess that it's less pure emotion, and more moral values, likely religiously-derived.

gkya 9y ago

None of those seem to exist in the standard libraries this package provides. Now one can (or has already) presumably put libraries with sensitive names in CPAN or PyPI or Debian Archives (e.g. libmoosex-, libsexy-, thefuck) or whatnot. Is Debian now an 18+ OS?

Pica_soO 9y ago

I recommend using another game-engine then- that uses lua. Unfortunately- the illusion that you can present a clean environment will be shattered rather swift, once one of them goes out to research for documentation and ends in any dev irc-channel. These guys can live on code, hentai and ramen alone for months- and that is not a clichee. My suggestion is to introduce a safe version of code and documentation via a repository and offer to get them any library they via that central repo. Yes its more preparation work, but its going to keep the project alive.

vanderZwan 9y ago

TIC-80 is a free Pico 8 clone, with slightly higher resolution, and Android support as well[0]. It also supports moonscript. The "Play" section has some really impressive stuff[1] [0] https://tic.computer/ https://tic.computer/ [1] https://tic.computer/play?cart=178 https://tic.computer/play?cart=178