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Effort is really mostly a bit of training and understanding of preparation. For example, I make a kind of base mixed salad 2 times a week, that costs me 5 minut

Effort is really mostly a bit of training and understanding of preparation. For example, I make a kind of base mixed salad 2 times a week, that costs me 5 minutes each time to cut a few vegetables and mix them with oil and vinegar. But I have that base salad to mix with fresh leaves every day then for zero preparation time. Similar can be done with warm food that you can store and warm up for multiple days, for example soup. The effort argument often reminds me of people who have incredibly inefficient workflows in their computer tasks, simply because they never learned how to do it right in the first place.

tyfon 9y ago
In Norway, cooking, nutrition and house work is a subject in school called heimkunnskap (Home knowledge) or at least we used to have it. Not sure about todays kids. So everyone here has learned how to do basic cooking and what a healthy diet should consist of. It's not like everybody are doing it but at least the basic knowledge is there. Sometimes making food from scratch is actually easier too than making it from store bought packages.
- elcapitan 9y ago
  > In Norway, cooking, nutrition and house work is a subject in school called heimkunnskap (Home knowledge) or at least we used to have it. Not sure about todays kids. That's really great. Of all the things constantly added to the expectations on schools, this is one that can have such a massive impact on many levels.
  - mantas 9y ago
    We have same thing in Lithuania. I also learned some basic woodwork. The lessons were super lame though due to few resource to have hands-on work. It was pretty much a useless lesson that everybody saw as OK to skip if you felt like it. Fun thing is, I hated those lessons. I fell in love with this kind of work later on though. Now I want a wood workshop in my garage. Need to afford a garage first though... Anyhow, this kind of lessons is definitely helpful. I see them as sort of compilation of "how to X" Youtube videos. With a teacher to help you with more complicated steps.
    - tyfon 9y ago
      That is also a subject here containing woodwork, knitting and sowing among things :) The woodworking/mechanics part is called "sløyd" and the other is "forming" (shaping).
- dictum 9y ago
  > In Norway, cooking, nutrition and house work is a subject in school called heimkunnskap (Home knowledge) In the US, the equivalent subject was called Home Economics, and was focused on women. This article goes through the history of the field: https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/what-happened-to-home-economics-history-feminism-education https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/what-happened-to-home-eco... (keep in mind that the publication is biased, as all are) > in the 1950s and ’60s [...] in many cases, home ec departments were eliminated, renamed, or folded into other departments, and funding was cut (although administrators’ salaries typically rose). “Administrators, all male then, held skeptical and hostile attitudes toward home economics, even as they expressed unabashed ignorance about the field,” Margaret W. Rossiter writes
- CodeWriter23 9y ago
  We used to have “Home Economics” in the US that taught cooking, paying bills and balancing a household budget. They deleted that class from public school curriculum, along with Civics, Cursive Handwriting and Physical Education. At least that’s how it is in LA Unified. We had a coach once a week, at my daughter’s former school, paid for by funds raised by parents.

tyfon 9y ago

In Norway, cooking, nutrition and house work is a subject in school called heimkunnskap (Home knowledge) or at least we used to have it. Not sure about todays kids. So everyone here has learned how to do basic cooking and what a healthy diet should consist of. It's not like everybody are doing it but at least the basic knowledge is there. Sometimes making food from scratch is actually easier too than making it from store bought packages.

elcapitan 9y ago
> In Norway, cooking, nutrition and house work is a subject in school called heimkunnskap (Home knowledge) or at least we used to have it. Not sure about todays kids. That's really great. Of all the things constantly added to the expectations on schools, this is one that can have such a massive impact on many levels.
- mantas 9y ago
  We have same thing in Lithuania. I also learned some basic woodwork. The lessons were super lame though due to few resource to have hands-on work. It was pretty much a useless lesson that everybody saw as OK to skip if you felt like it. Fun thing is, I hated those lessons. I fell in love with this kind of work later on though. Now I want a wood workshop in my garage. Need to afford a garage first though... Anyhow, this kind of lessons is definitely helpful. I see them as sort of compilation of "how to X" Youtube videos. With a teacher to help you with more complicated steps.
  - tyfon 9y ago
    That is also a subject here containing woodwork, knitting and sowing among things :) The woodworking/mechanics part is called "sløyd" and the other is "forming" (shaping).
dictum 9y ago
> In Norway, cooking, nutrition and house work is a subject in school called heimkunnskap (Home knowledge) In the US, the equivalent subject was called Home Economics, and was focused on women. This article goes through the history of the field: https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/what-happened-to-home-economics-history-feminism-education https://www.bitchmedia.org/article/what-happened-to-home-eco... (keep in mind that the publication is biased, as all are) > in the 1950s and ’60s [...] in many cases, home ec departments were eliminated, renamed, or folded into other departments, and funding was cut (although administrators’ salaries typically rose). “Administrators, all male then, held skeptical and hostile attitudes toward home economics, even as they expressed unabashed ignorance about the field,” Margaret W. Rossiter writes
CodeWriter23 9y ago
We used to have “Home Economics” in the US that taught cooking, paying bills and balancing a household budget. They deleted that class from public school curriculum, along with Civics, Cursive Handwriting and Physical Education. At least that’s how it is in LA Unified. We had a coach once a week, at my daughter’s former school, paid for by funds raised by parents.