> One of the greatest lies that Lispers have is: "Lisp has no syntax". It's wrong, Lisp has a lot of syntax. > What Lisp has, and is, is a syntax to describe

> One of the greatest lies that Lispers have is: "Lisp has no syntax". It's wrong, Lisp has a lot of syntax. > What Lisp has, and is, is a syntax to describe an AST. That's wrong, too. Lisp syntax does not describe an AST. > To me, it's a chain of 5 functions which are neither shorter to write nor better than Java's jOOQ [1]: That's not the point, the Lisp version is on another level: * it does not expose its implementation * the macro allows to translate this code at something like compile time The Java code is a bunch of function invocations which create a string. Usually at runtime.