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Miners with “black lung” didn’t need a study or scientists to tell them about it.
by gaius 9y ago
Miners with “black lung” didn’t need a study or scientists to tell them about it.
- rexpop 9y agoSociety disproportionately ignores "women's issues."
- gaius 9y agoSociety disproportionately ignores "women's issues." Society ignored those miners too, and left them to die, and here you are in 2018 trying to erase that and make it about gender when it’s really about The Workers.
- VectorLock 9y agoAnd here you are in 2018 taking something about gender and making it about miners.
- fimdomeio 9y agoSociety disproportionately ignores the problems of everyone in a less privileged position
- Guthur 9y agoBut its not sbout gender, unless women are more susceptible than men. There're men cleaning at home and work as well.
- gaius 9y ago"Breathing particulates bad for humans, scientists announce"
- rexpop 9y agoIt's true. The comment to which I responded is a choice piece of whataboutism, "a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy."
- rexpop 9y agoYou're somewhat right. I can see how my comment can be construed as dismissive of workers' struggles.
- true_religion 9y agoAnd yet scientists still did a totally "unnecessary" study about them [1], because today miners are dying at younger ages than they did in the past and that's a troubling conclusion that you wouldn't immediately guess from annectoda. Science is important, even for the 'its obvious, everyone knows it is dangerous' kinda stuff. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/65/wr/mm6549a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/65/wr/mm6549a1.htm
- madez 9y ago> Science is important, even for the 'its obvious, everyone knows it is dangerous' kinda stuff. Indeed. Intuition, or in other words the "well, that's obvious" feeling, might be a good lazy approximation of the truth, but it is often wrong when examined closely.
- socceroos 9y ago> ... but it is often wrong when examined closely. Having witnessed the whiplash in scientific understanding I'd almost say that "it's more complicated than that" is a more accurate summation. Since often the approximation isn't totally wrong but it's more a simplification of the issue.
- arkades 9y agoThe guys with asbestosis, silicosis, and berylliosis did. There actually aren’t enough people dying of coal miner’s lung to allow good studies of it. Which is too bad (Er... you know what I mean), because our treatments for it are subsequently based on arm-chair hypotheses rather than solid science.