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The spirit of failure of Google Wave was very similar to Google Glass failure. They were so badly presented, in so much wrong ways. The idea behind Wave is extr

The spirit of failure of Google Wave was very similar to Google Glass failure. They were so badly presented, in so much wrong ways. The idea behind Wave is extremely great but why, oh god, WHY it was presented as a consumer (and not business/corp) product?!

Pxtl 9y ago
This. Everytime I'm thrashig out a design with other developers on Skype I wish we were using something mixing wiki and chat.
- smt88 9y ago
  Google Docs has chat on the side and version history, along with live editing. What is it missing that you'd want?
  - qznc 9y ago
    It does lack connections between documents like a wiki. While you can do hyperlinks, it does not feel connected. Also, can you structure documents into find hierarchy or tagging system? Finally, no self hosting.
    - tajen 9y ago
      Better browsing across Google Docs documents would make it the killer software. - It probably requires a left sidebar with a tree of the project’s documents, - And perhaps a notion of document hierarchy, child pages or something to better browse. Aside from those, which aren’t technology challenging, it would make my startup switch to GApps.
    - smt88 9y ago
      > While you can do hyperlinks, it does not feel connected. Not sure what "feel connected" means. In both systems, you click a link and it takes you to the document in question. The only difference is that wiki links are shorter... > Also, can you structure documents into find hierarchy or tagging system? The hierarchy is just the file system, which only allows files to be in a single directory at a time. > Finally, no self hosting. OwnCloud with certain extensions probably does everything you want, e.g. https://owncloud.com/collabora/collaborative-editing/ https://owncloud.com/collabora/collaborative-editing/
- rando444 9y ago
  Confluence has a chat plugin. https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/confluence.chat/server/overview https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/confluence.chat/se...
- inthewoods 9y ago
  Quip is a pretty interesting take on this.

Pxtl 9y ago

This. Everytime I'm thrashig out a design with other developers on Skype I wish we were using something mixing wiki and chat.

smt88 9y ago
Google Docs has chat on the side and version history, along with live editing. What is it missing that you'd want?
- qznc 9y ago
  It does lack connections between documents like a wiki. While you can do hyperlinks, it does not feel connected. Also, can you structure documents into find hierarchy or tagging system? Finally, no self hosting.
  - tajen 9y ago
    Better browsing across Google Docs documents would make it the killer software. - It probably requires a left sidebar with a tree of the project’s documents, - And perhaps a notion of document hierarchy, child pages or something to better browse. Aside from those, which aren’t technology challenging, it would make my startup switch to GApps.
  - smt88 9y ago
    > While you can do hyperlinks, it does not feel connected. Not sure what "feel connected" means. In both systems, you click a link and it takes you to the document in question. The only difference is that wiki links are shorter... > Also, can you structure documents into find hierarchy or tagging system? The hierarchy is just the file system, which only allows files to be in a single directory at a time. > Finally, no self hosting. OwnCloud with certain extensions probably does everything you want, e.g. https://owncloud.com/collabora/collaborative-editing/ https://owncloud.com/collabora/collaborative-editing/
rando444 9y ago
Confluence has a chat plugin. https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/confluence.chat/server/overview https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/confluence.chat/se...
inthewoods 9y ago
Quip is a pretty interesting take on this.