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I don't understand how your argument exists alongside the fact that we farm the animals that we eat. The chicken that you buy at the grocer isn't one we swiped
by always_good 9y ago
I don't understand how your argument exists alongside the fact that we farm the animals that we eat.
The chicken that you buy at the grocer isn't one we swiped away just as a wolf was about it eat it. The chicken was grown indoors in a factory, likely hadn't even seen the light of day. Even a wolf-eaten wild chicken gets that courtesy.
- freehunter 9y agoYou can be against factory farming and not be a vegan.
- derefr 9y agoThe argument I have is mostly applicable to fisheries (i.e. this discussion re: lobsters); it doesn't have much to say about farming. Lobsters, like much of our seafood, are just plucked up out of the ocean. If we don't eat them, an otter or something does.
- jdietrich 9y agoAs it happens, adult American lobsters have few predators other than man. They're big, well-armored, have immensely powerful claws and live in deep burrows. Juvenile lobsters are vulnerable to ground fish, but an adult lobster is only likely to be eaten by brave seals and humans.
- derefr 9y agoTrue enough, for now. It seems climate change has created a lobster population boom, though (they love the warmer water), so I would say it's only a matter of time before evolution takes notice of this "free lunch" and adapts some of the neighbouring predators to better get at them.
- megaman22 9y agoLobsters are basically farmed, at this point.
- bootlooped 9y agoWhether they suffer more or less when caught vs killed naturally in the ocean, I don't know, but there are other issues with fishing in the ocean, mainly that it is unsustainable. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ocean-fish-numbers-cut-in-half-since-1970/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ocean-fish-number...
- sildur 9y agoA wolf-eaten chicken also gets courtesy parasites.