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That's a ridiculous price to pay for ketamine. Though I'm hoping that cost includes a doctor's supervision and stuff? $6000 would buy me enough Special K for s

That's a ridiculous price to pay for ketamine. Though I'm hoping that cost includes a doctor's supervision and stuff? $6000 would buy me enough Special K for several life times ...

atomical 9y ago
> Though I'm hoping that cost includes a doctor's supervision and stuff? Supervision by a nurse. It's usually contracted out. > $6000 would buy me enough Special K for several life times ... If it's not the same procedure (IV) with a compound that is pure you might not be getting any of the benefits.
- jack_h 9y ago
  > If it's not the same procedure (IV) with a compound that is pure you might not be getting any of the benefits. At the same time since insurance doesn't cover this the only real option for people who don't have that kind of money (myself included) is black market self-administration or more traditional therapies which may not be as effective.
  - atomical 9y ago
    > or more traditional therapies which may not be as effective. It's not proven. There are a few articles and a few success stories. It isn't a panacea. The cost is only an issue after someone has tried many traditional therapies.
- LaikaF 9y ago
  Med grade K pops up for about 140 USD a gram. It's not hard to get insulin needles. There are guides on how to IV on the internet. This would likely last much shorter then an infusion as there's a limited options for setting a running IV as opposed to just a single injection.
  - Lambdanaut 9y ago
    That's US street price. On the dark web you can get medical grade for $20 a gram.
    - sh4z 9y ago
      And from a veterinarian in Central America for less than $5 a gram. Is there a difference between "medical grade" and what is used for animals?
      - rbanffy 9y ago
        Animals rarely sue their doctors.
      - LaikaF 9y ago
        I said medical to differentiate it from street k which comes as a powder and is usually cut which is bad for injection. And there shouldn't be a difference between animal and human ketamine.
    - robocat 9y ago
      Your "medical grade" could be fake on the darkweb, who knows what you are getting? "In the village of Boshe, underground laboratories are producing ketamine cheaply in large amounts." from: http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-33472971/inside-a-chinese-ketamine-village http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-33472971/inside-... I also wouldn't be trusting the packaging wasn't fake (or refilled).
      - sincerely 9y ago
        The darkweb is generally safer than buying shit from random people in real life
      - LaikaF 9y ago
        Don't think it'd be worth the trouble. They'd more likely produce the powder as that's easier to conceal for shipping or more likely just make DCK which is still legal.
- empath75 9y ago
  Street ketamine is usually from vets..
WalterSear 9y ago
According to my psychiatrist, you are paying for the malpractice insurance of a doctor performing unestablished medical treatments.
- aaavl2821 9y ago
  That might be misinformed, although $2-6k per infusion is very very high. That price is simply providing a high profit to the provider There is a group of doctors who provide ketamine therapy and they've created some resources for interested patients. They say cost should be $400-800 per infusion and outline the drivers: http://www.ketamineadvocacynetwork.org/cost/ http://www.ketamineadvocacynetwork.org/cost/
  - WalterSear 9y ago
    Fwiw, $800 is the price I was quoted.
- atomical 9y ago
  You're paying for the risk that the doctor is taking. It's going directly into his pocket though. That's why regional prices are so far apart.

That's a ridiculous price to pay for ketamine. Though I'm hoping that cost includes a doctor's supervision and stuff? $6000 would buy me enough Special K for several life times ...

atomical 9y ago

> Though I'm hoping that cost includes a doctor's supervision and stuff? Supervision by a nurse. It's usually contracted out. > $6000 would buy me enough Special K for several life times ... If it's not the same procedure (IV) with a compound that is pure you might not be getting any of the benefits.

jack_h 9y ago
> If it's not the same procedure (IV) with a compound that is pure you might not be getting any of the benefits. At the same time since insurance doesn't cover this the only real option for people who don't have that kind of money (myself included) is black market self-administration or more traditional therapies which may not be as effective.
- atomical 9y ago
  > or more traditional therapies which may not be as effective. It's not proven. There are a few articles and a few success stories. It isn't a panacea. The cost is only an issue after someone has tried many traditional therapies.
LaikaF 9y ago
Med grade K pops up for about 140 USD a gram. It's not hard to get insulin needles. There are guides on how to IV on the internet. This would likely last much shorter then an infusion as there's a limited options for setting a running IV as opposed to just a single injection.
- Lambdanaut 9y ago
  That's US street price. On the dark web you can get medical grade for $20 a gram.
  - sh4z 9y ago
    And from a veterinarian in Central America for less than $5 a gram. Is there a difference between "medical grade" and what is used for animals?
    - rbanffy 9y ago
      Animals rarely sue their doctors.
    - LaikaF 9y ago
      I said medical to differentiate it from street k which comes as a powder and is usually cut which is bad for injection. And there shouldn't be a difference between animal and human ketamine.
  - robocat 9y ago
    Your "medical grade" could be fake on the darkweb, who knows what you are getting? "In the village of Boshe, underground laboratories are producing ketamine cheaply in large amounts." from: http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-33472971/inside-a-chinese-ketamine-village http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-33472971/inside-... I also wouldn't be trusting the packaging wasn't fake (or refilled).
    - sincerely 9y ago
      The darkweb is generally safer than buying shit from random people in real life
    - LaikaF 9y ago
      Don't think it'd be worth the trouble. They'd more likely produce the powder as that's easier to conceal for shipping or more likely just make DCK which is still legal.
empath75 9y ago
Street ketamine is usually from vets..

WalterSear 9y ago

According to my psychiatrist, you are paying for the malpractice insurance of a doctor performing unestablished medical treatments.

aaavl2821 9y ago
That might be misinformed, although $2-6k per infusion is very very high. That price is simply providing a high profit to the provider There is a group of doctors who provide ketamine therapy and they've created some resources for interested patients. They say cost should be $400-800 per infusion and outline the drivers: http://www.ketamineadvocacynetwork.org/cost/ http://www.ketamineadvocacynetwork.org/cost/
- WalterSear 9y ago
  Fwiw, $800 is the price I was quoted.
atomical 9y ago
You're paying for the risk that the doctor is taking. It's going directly into his pocket though. That's why regional prices are so far apart.