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I think you have it backwards - this thread is full of people making excuses for Damore. And yes, I've read it. Just because he wrote some sentences that claim

I think you have it backwards - this thread is full of people making excuses for Damore. And yes, I've read it. Just because he wrote some sentences that claimed he's in favor of diversity doesn't magically change the content of the rest of the memo. If he was truly arguing in good faith, he should've stuck to actual, demonstrable examples of issues or problems caused by the existing diversity practices. There was no need to go on long rambling tangents about population statistics that even he acknowledges aren't really relevant to the topic: > "Many of these differences are small and there’s significant overlap between men and women, so you can’t say anything about an individual given these population level distributions." You'll note that most of the memo seems to be implying the opposite.

ThomPete 9y ago
I would also urge you to be more specific. Give me a specific example so we can discuss it. Just handwavy claims without any specifics is useless.
stcredzero 9y ago
It's quite strange, but if you read James Damore's memo at face value, you'll find Google and YouTube execs saying essentially the same thing in public: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrOp8ewzJDc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrOp8ewzJDc There was no need to go on long rambling tangents about population statistics that even he acknowledges aren't really relevant to the topic It's certainly relevant. The "jury is still out" in terms of biology and gender preferences and how those are modulated by culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmyO3hbOz8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmyO3hbOz8 (Seriously, watch that, and tell me which side is intellectually open and honest, and which side comes across as ideologues.) > "Many of these differences are small and there’s significant overlap between men and women, so you can’t say anything about an individual given these population level distributions." You'll note that most of the memo seems to be implying the opposite. "Seems to be implying." You are essentially admitting to an ideologically skewed, imputational reading.

ThomPete 9y ago

I would also urge you to be more specific. Give me a specific example so we can discuss it. Just handwavy claims without any specifics is useless.

stcredzero 9y ago

It's quite strange, but if you read James Damore's memo at face value, you'll find Google and YouTube execs saying essentially the same thing in public: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrOp8ewzJDc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrOp8ewzJDc There was no need to go on long rambling tangents about population statistics that even he acknowledges aren't really relevant to the topic It's certainly relevant. The "jury is still out" in terms of biology and gender preferences and how those are modulated by culture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmyO3hbOz8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmyO3hbOz8 (Seriously, watch that, and tell me which side is intellectually open and honest, and which side comes across as ideologues.) > "Many of these differences are small and there’s significant overlap between men and women, so you can’t say anything about an individual given these population level distributions." You'll note that most of the memo seems to be implying the opposite. "Seems to be implying." You are essentially admitting to an ideologically skewed, imputational reading.