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Team interaction is a software engineering skill. The ability to work with a diverse set of people and bring them together rather than disparaging and dividing

Team interaction is a software engineering skill. The ability to work with a diverse set of people and bring them together rather than disparaging and dividing them is a software engineering skill. I would rather have a good programmer who got along with my team than a great one that wrote such memos.

ThomPete 9y ago
Then perhaps Google shouldn't ask for feedback on their courses. Seems rather disingenuous to say the least.
- alsetmusic 9y ago
  > Then perhaps Google shouldn't ask for feedback on their courses. Seems rather disingenuous to say the least. My impression is that he circulated his “feedback” among employees. I would be surprised if that was requested by Google.
  - ThomPete 9y ago
    He was encouraged like anyone else who took the course to provide feedback after a diversity program that he attended. That's how it started.
Consultant32452 9y ago
Can we differentiate between firing Damore and participating in a nation-wide metaphorical public hanging?
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > Can we differentiate between firing Damore and participating in a nation-wide metaphorical public hanging? Yes. Starting with the first is a thing that actually happened, and the second is not, so it's not worth talking about.
  - Consultant32452 9y ago
    I'm sorry, but some random nobody at Google having some wrong ideas about diversity policy does not deserve to be national front page news. James Damore is about as meek and mild as it gets. He's not some David Duke monster. None of us should have ever heard his name. This was a public assassination of a powerless nobody for cheap political points. That's the part that I have a problem with. I have no problem at all with Google firing him. I have a problem with the way the national media and general public behaved.
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      > I'm sorry, but some random nobody at Google having some wrong ideas about diversity policy does not deserve to be national front page news. Claims of anti-white-male discrimination in tech are man-bites-dog stories, and naturally get more attention for that reason, plus, Damore immediately sought out media with political biases to maximally promote that kind of story. It becoming national front page news and getting the degree of attention it did in part just novelty, and in very large part the foreseeable result of how Damore soguht to promote his story. > This was a public assassination No, it wasn't. It was public, but there was no assassination.
      - Consultant32452 9y ago
        >Damore immediately sought out media with political biases to maximally promote that kind of story Was this before or after he'd already made national headlines for having written an "anti-diversity manifesto?"
      - stcredzero 9y ago
        No, it wasn't. It was public, but there was no assassination. It sure looked like an intellectually dishonest, ideologically fervent character assassination to me.
        itronitron 9y ago
        can you elaborate on what you mean by intellectually dishonest?

ThomPete 9y ago

Then perhaps Google shouldn't ask for feedback on their courses. Seems rather disingenuous to say the least.

alsetmusic 9y ago
> Then perhaps Google shouldn't ask for feedback on their courses. Seems rather disingenuous to say the least. My impression is that he circulated his “feedback” among employees. I would be surprised if that was requested by Google.
- ThomPete 9y ago
  He was encouraged like anyone else who took the course to provide feedback after a diversity program that he attended. That's how it started.

Consultant32452 9y ago

Can we differentiate between firing Damore and participating in a nation-wide metaphorical public hanging?

dragonwriter 9y ago
> Can we differentiate between firing Damore and participating in a nation-wide metaphorical public hanging? Yes. Starting with the first is a thing that actually happened, and the second is not, so it's not worth talking about.
- Consultant32452 9y ago
  I'm sorry, but some random nobody at Google having some wrong ideas about diversity policy does not deserve to be national front page news. James Damore is about as meek and mild as it gets. He's not some David Duke monster. None of us should have ever heard his name. This was a public assassination of a powerless nobody for cheap political points. That's the part that I have a problem with. I have no problem at all with Google firing him. I have a problem with the way the national media and general public behaved.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > I'm sorry, but some random nobody at Google having some wrong ideas about diversity policy does not deserve to be national front page news. Claims of anti-white-male discrimination in tech are man-bites-dog stories, and naturally get more attention for that reason, plus, Damore immediately sought out media with political biases to maximally promote that kind of story. It becoming national front page news and getting the degree of attention it did in part just novelty, and in very large part the foreseeable result of how Damore soguht to promote his story. > This was a public assassination No, it wasn't. It was public, but there was no assassination.
    - Consultant32452 9y ago
      >Damore immediately sought out media with political biases to maximally promote that kind of story Was this before or after he'd already made national headlines for having written an "anti-diversity manifesto?"
    - stcredzero 9y ago
      No, it wasn't. It was public, but there was no assassination. It sure looked like an intellectually dishonest, ideologically fervent character assassination to me.
      - itronitron 9y ago
        can you elaborate on what you mean by intellectually dishonest?