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He cited multiple academic sources to back up the claims made about gender. He also belabored the point that averages and general trends of a demographic should

He cited multiple academic sources to back up the claims made about gender. He also belabored the point that averages and general trends of a demographic should not be used to make judgements about individual members of the demographic.

s73v3r_ 9y ago
Not all of them. He also misinterpreted several, and stretched the conclusions beyond what was reasonable.
- zimablue 9y ago
  Good of you to point then out for us then, thanks.
- oh_sigh 9y ago
  This is exactly what happens in academia all of the time, when you have factions who believe in competing ideas. Side A thinks that logic and rationality and the data is on their side, and that side B stretches the facts and don't have support for their claims, and vice versa for side B. Are all of these issues in academia settled which you refer to? Or is it that, maybe, Damore accepted side Bs views, whereas you accept side As views, but this isn't settle in academia? Could you point out, perhaps, the most offensive, non-supported statement that Damore had in his memo?
  - bduerst 9y ago
    There's a good breakdown here, that was eventually run in Forbes: https://www.quora.com/What-do-scientists-think-about-the-biological-claims-made-in-the-document-about-diversity-written-by-a-Google-employee-in-August-2017/answer/Suzanne-Sadedin?share=bac59e68&srid=3u9f https://www.quora.com/What-do-scientists-think-about-the-bio...
    - throwaway324823 9y ago
      Is it a good breakdown? The author seems awfully bought into the narrative of power structures being the dominant reason for sex differences, and is obviously extremely angry. Hardly an unbiased observer.
      - oh_sigh 9y ago
        Yes, the author makes a point that Damore's memo 'makes repugnant attacks on compassion and empathy'. Does it really? That seems a bit silly and I didn't read anything like that in the memo. It makes me suspect other parts of the rebuttal.

s73v3r_ 9y ago

Not all of them. He also misinterpreted several, and stretched the conclusions beyond what was reasonable.

zimablue 9y ago
Good of you to point then out for us then, thanks.
oh_sigh 9y ago
This is exactly what happens in academia all of the time, when you have factions who believe in competing ideas. Side A thinks that logic and rationality and the data is on their side, and that side B stretches the facts and don't have support for their claims, and vice versa for side B. Are all of these issues in academia settled which you refer to? Or is it that, maybe, Damore accepted side Bs views, whereas you accept side As views, but this isn't settle in academia? Could you point out, perhaps, the most offensive, non-supported statement that Damore had in his memo?
- bduerst 9y ago
  There's a good breakdown here, that was eventually run in Forbes: https://www.quora.com/What-do-scientists-think-about-the-biological-claims-made-in-the-document-about-diversity-written-by-a-Google-employee-in-August-2017/answer/Suzanne-Sadedin?share=bac59e68&srid=3u9f https://www.quora.com/What-do-scientists-think-about-the-bio...
  - throwaway324823 9y ago
    Is it a good breakdown? The author seems awfully bought into the narrative of power structures being the dominant reason for sex differences, and is obviously extremely angry. Hardly an unbiased observer.
    - oh_sigh 9y ago
      Yes, the author makes a point that Damore's memo 'makes repugnant attacks on compassion and empathy'. Does it really? That seems a bit silly and I didn't read anything like that in the memo. It makes me suspect other parts of the rebuttal.