> It's ridiculous to expect newcomers to a language and/or programming in general to slog through a 20 or 30-step environment setup process. It's ridiculous fo

> It's ridiculous to expect newcomers to a language and/or programming in general to slog through a 20 or 30-step environment setup process. It's ridiculous for anyone really. If you're not using something outside of the standard libraries, it's ludicrous to expect someone to slog through the manual setup process when they can double click an IDE icon and be ready to program in under a minute. Not to mention the fact that a lot of those setup guides are for specific OSes and the author always seems to leave that part out. So you get to step fifteen and get a weird makefile error only to find out that that particular library is for another OS with no alternative for your own. This forces you to restart at square one with more potential added steps (eg virtual machine setup, OS setup, etc).