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You describe a one-off transaction in which no expectation of future contact is anticipated. Facebook is an account with an on going relationship. Its the dif

You describe a one-off transaction in which no expectation of future contact is anticipated. Facebook is an account with an on going relationship. Its the difference between seeing someone multiple times and saying hello to a stranger on the train. I'm not saying they don't take it too far, but certainly someone with an account has invited facebook to do some data collection and tracking.

TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago
Facebook also spies on people who have never used the service.
visarga 9y ago
It's one thing to track me on facebook.com where I signed up, another to track me on blogs, newspapers and everywhere else.
ryandrake 9y ago
Fine, so instead of Craigslist Guy, let's use Home Depot, where I shop often. Just shopping there does not imply my consent to them tracking where else I go and shop throughout my day. Merely having an account somewhere or regularly doing business somewhere should not imply consent to tracking and data collection, to which I must opt out. ADD: I probably have 100+ accounts at various sites online. Do these guys all get free passes to collect data and track me because I happen to have created an account there?
- slededit 9y ago
  If you opened a credit account with Home Depot or had their loyalty card you'd be literally consenting to more tracking. That's the difference between an account and a one off transaction. Facebook certainly operates outside of even this rather liberal framework so I wouldn't defend them wholesale. However I don't like false equivalencies.
MaxBarraclough 9y ago
> Its the difference between seeing someone multiple times and saying hello to a stranger on the train. It goes further than that, as it affects other people too. See also: Eben Moglen's talk about how privacy is ecological, not transactional. http://snowdenandthefuture.info/PartIII.html http://snowdenandthefuture.info/PartIII.html

TazeTSchnitzel 9y ago

Facebook also spies on people who have never used the service.

visarga 9y ago

It's one thing to track me on facebook.com where I signed up, another to track me on blogs, newspapers and everywhere else.

ryandrake 9y ago

Fine, so instead of Craigslist Guy, let's use Home Depot, where I shop often. Just shopping there does not imply my consent to them tracking where else I go and shop throughout my day. Merely having an account somewhere or regularly doing business somewhere should not imply consent to tracking and data collection, to which I must opt out. ADD: I probably have 100+ accounts at various sites online. Do these guys all get free passes to collect data and track me because I happen to have created an account there?

slededit 9y ago
If you opened a credit account with Home Depot or had their loyalty card you'd be literally consenting to more tracking. That's the difference between an account and a one off transaction. Facebook certainly operates outside of even this rather liberal framework so I wouldn't defend them wholesale. However I don't like false equivalencies.

MaxBarraclough 9y ago

> Its the difference between seeing someone multiple times and saying hello to a stranger on the train. It goes further than that, as it affects other people too. See also: Eben Moglen's talk about how privacy is ecological, not transactional. http://snowdenandthefuture.info/PartIII.html http://snowdenandthefuture.info/PartIII.html