Glossing over the "real lisp" part ;-) Struggled to start with, sure. But ultimately for me those are the best parts. Immutability particularly. It takes a few

Glossing over the "real lisp" part ;-) Struggled to start with, sure. But ultimately for me those are the best parts. Immutability particularly. It takes a few weeks learn how to solve problems again but I do think it makes things simpler and removes a nice category of bugs. Actually maybe Java interop was the best part. Without that I doubt we could have picked up Clojure. It's far less true today but this was almost 6 years ago. Back then knowing there would be a library, even if we had to quickly wrap it was essential.