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>and that true anonymity doesn't exist either Yes it does, you are mistaken. An IP does not identify you if it's a proxy server or a VPN or a Tor node. All exi
by nukeop 9y ago
>and that true anonymity doesn't exist either
Yes it does, you are mistaken. An IP does not identify you if it's a proxy server or a VPN or a Tor node. All existing tracking methods can be fooled.
- TeMPOraL 9y agoOnly for as long as nobody really cares. OPSEC is hard. Even people for whom it's a matter of life and death fail at it routinely. Angry trolls even more so. Your first message may be anonymous, but by your third message there's a good chance someone dedicated could find you if they cared enough.
- nukeop 9y agoAnd how exactly?
- talaketu 9y agotransference
- mnx 9y agoVPN providers keep logs even when they say they don't, your browser transmits an often unique fingerprint, vulnerabilities allow disclosing real ip, and so on. Even darknet market operators with all the reasons for trying to be anonymous and paranoid get outed. It's just a matter of how much resources it takes.
- nukeop 9y agoWhy would a VPN provider disclose customer info to a random third party? Why would you assume that the majority of VPN providers lie to customers? Why do you think people who want to stay anonymous don't know how to throw off browser fingerprinting?
- drewmol 9y ago>Why would a VPN provider disclose customer info to a random third party? Money >Why would you assume that the majority of VPN providers lie to customers? Money. There's no way to confirm their claims, and if logging+selling data= more money, there's a reasonable assumption that is indeed the case. >Why do you think people who want to stay anonymous don't know how to throw off browser fingerprinting? Even if they do, it's difficult, ever changing, and easy to slip up.
- oarsinsync 9y agoVPN providers often don't run their own networks, but instead run on other ISP networks. Those underlying ISPs have data that can be used to correlate (with a scary amount of accuracy in a remarkably short space of time) your flow to the VPN server against a flow from the VPN server to a remote host. Without exaggerating, lives have been saved through this technique. Once the technology exists for one purpose, it can be repurposed very easily.
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- willvarfar 9y agoNot to the three messages claim, but in general, various baddies have been tracked down despite using TOR etc.
- jopsen 9y agoYou buy it from one of the vendors that tracks people... There are literally businesses out there that gives you a snippet to embed in your site, and then they employ all the tricks of tracking to give you email, name, address, etc. It's not perfect every time, but probably more that you would like. And I wouldn't be surprised if incognito mode or VPN isn't always enough to disappear.
- nukeop 9y agoLike I said, all existing tracking methods can be fooled. Poisoned data isn't worth much. People who want anonymity know how to completely throw off commercial trackers to the point where they are useless.
- bozniv 9y ago> Only for as long as nobody really cares. In case of angry trolls, that's usually quite a long time.