In the same way, you also can't say "That's 20 years old and not relevant anymore". Appeal to novelty fallacy and all that. Are they really that different of a

In the same way, you also can't say "That's 20 years old and not relevant anymore". Appeal to novelty fallacy and all that. Are they really that different of a company? Microsoft is huge, organizational memory is long, and decisions made long ago, whether rational or mere cargo culting, will affect how they run today. I'd argue they're a bit more cunning, but not one whit less underhanded. The EU browser ballot thing was considerably more recent, for instance. The forced W10 upgrades with the trick X dialog. Dark patterns surrounding use of a Microsoft account. Non-disableable telemetry. Hawking Edge in a way that would even make Chrome blush [1]. I think they know that they can't be as overt anymore; a couple of antitrust suits will do that to you. [1]: https://i.imgur.com/W56CuN6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/W56CuN6.jpg