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It's a tricky problem. I think tech people are fringe. For me, I would want to disable it all. But if people can turn it off then it doesn't let microsoft impr

It's a tricky problem. I think tech people are fringe. For me, I would want to disable it all. But if people can turn it off then it doesn't let microsoft improve and adapt. In concept, I kind of like the idea the OS could anticipate the things I need. It's how we imagine futuristic computer systems. It's a bit different from the traditional OS where you are the master over everything. I'm not sure many on HN are going to like this thing, but I would think MS gets to see the stats and has better view of how well they are doing. Percentage wise it might be working out pretty good, however, each percentage point they piss off ends up being a lot of people and if the fringe of tech people are in that 1% that can end up in a lot of angry blogs.

Retra 9y ago
I would naively expect that Microsoft's market share is too large for any real adapting to occur. They've made my machines significantly worse enough times that I've stopped using their OSs completely, and since then I just hear more of the same. They can get away with making things worse, so why shouldn't they?
tmorton 9y ago
boggle What? NO. Just no. This doesn't "anticipate the things I need". It doesn't "anticipate" anything. It's not "the things I need", it's whatever MS decides to promote. There's a vaguely similar feature, that would be vaguely defensible - but this isn't it. This is malware, plain and simple.
- titanix2 9y ago
  Totally agree. My computers are my things and should be under my control only. That’s why I’m wary of Win 10 which forces system replacement, install softwares without consent, display advertisements, can preload UWP apps in memory, etc. All this things might be an acceptable comprise on mobile for some people (which include myself) but is a big no go on anything desktop or server class. My harware is not here to be part of someone else botnet. If MS wants my money, let’s make good product without subscription and let me pay for it. I would be glad to pay 20 to 50€ for Visual Studio if it encourages user friendly business practices.
  - keithnz 9y ago
    your computer is your thing, install whatever OS you like. If you want a non consumer experience and want windows, go with a server product. People are never gonna be happy with change. Not so long ago they took paint (which they insisted on us having whether we wanted it or not) out of the base install of their "botnet / malware" and people lost their shit. Now windows dynamically asks you whether you want a program and people are again losing their shit. In both cases it's microsoft making a call on what apps are on your machine. In both cases you can uninstall them.
yorby 9y ago
you know they will want to get all your data before they "anticipate".... no thanks ... if only they would analyze locally (instead of mining cryptocurrencies /s).

Retra 9y ago

I would naively expect that Microsoft's market share is too large for any real adapting to occur. They've made my machines significantly worse enough times that I've stopped using their OSs completely, and since then I just hear more of the same. They can get away with making things worse, so why shouldn't they?

tmorton 9y ago

boggle What? NO. Just no. This doesn't "anticipate the things I need". It doesn't "anticipate" anything. It's not "the things I need", it's whatever MS decides to promote. There's a vaguely similar feature, that would be vaguely defensible - but this isn't it. This is malware, plain and simple.

titanix2 9y ago
Totally agree. My computers are my things and should be under my control only. That’s why I’m wary of Win 10 which forces system replacement, install softwares without consent, display advertisements, can preload UWP apps in memory, etc. All this things might be an acceptable comprise on mobile for some people (which include myself) but is a big no go on anything desktop or server class. My harware is not here to be part of someone else botnet. If MS wants my money, let’s make good product without subscription and let me pay for it. I would be glad to pay 20 to 50€ for Visual Studio if it encourages user friendly business practices.
- keithnz 9y ago
  your computer is your thing, install whatever OS you like. If you want a non consumer experience and want windows, go with a server product. People are never gonna be happy with change. Not so long ago they took paint (which they insisted on us having whether we wanted it or not) out of the base install of their "botnet / malware" and people lost their shit. Now windows dynamically asks you whether you want a program and people are again losing their shit. In both cases it's microsoft making a call on what apps are on your machine. In both cases you can uninstall them.

yorby 9y ago

you know they will want to get all your data before they "anticipate".... no thanks ... if only they would analyze locally (instead of mining cryptocurrencies /s).