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I set up my brother in-law's new HP laptop he got from Costco and I had to spend over 2 hours removing crap from it. The amount of crapware installed (and a lot

I set up my brother in-law's new HP laptop he got from Costco and I had to spend over 2 hours removing crap from it. The amount of crapware installed (and a lot of them are MS apps) is unreal.

HenryBemis 9y ago
(Unfortunately) HP has been loading their machines with crapware for about a decade now. :(
- Stranger43 9y ago
  It's not just HP it's just about everything that comes out an retail store without an apple logo on it(unless you count itunes/facetime as unwanted software in which case it's just about everything). If you buy high end laptops from a business partner or directly from the vendor and make sure you get a pro(paid) version of windows things are better but the razor thin margins of the consumer market make it hard to avoid strange and badly designed attempts at price differentiation and/or payola schemes.
  - suby 9y ago
    If anyone wants a Windows laptop without bloatware, I think the best bet is through a Microsoft Store. They sell "signature edition" laptops which are supposed to contain Windows and nothing else. That's if the marketing is to be believed, anyway, I personally have never done this. On another note, I got an XPS 13 from Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed. As far as I could tell, the only extra software on there was some drivers. I realize that the average person isn't going to want a Linux laptop though.
    - AlphaSite 9y ago
      Windows its self installs candy crush and other crap.
- TwoNineA 9y ago
  Why is MS cramming down my throat some 3D Pain thing, Augmented Reality crap and other apps I don't care about? Edit: Oh and Camera app. On a desktop. Without even a webcam. What is the justification for that?
  - TomMarius 9y ago
    To be fair there was a Camera application at least since Windows XP, but it was hidden from the Start menu.
  - djaychela 9y ago
    >some 3D Pain thing Was that intentional? Made me laugh either way.
    - gruez 9y ago
      *paint
  - Amezarak 9y ago
    > Why is MS cramming down my throat some 3D Pain thing, Augmented Reality crap and other apps I don't care about? How many OSs come without any graphics applications installed? > Edit: Oh and Camera app. On a desktop. Without even a webcam. What is the justification for that? Because a lot of hardware does have a webcam and thus benefits from having the app, while hardware without it sees nothing but a negligible HHD space impact.
    - Sylos 9y ago
      Coming without any graphical applications and coming with 3D or AR software is a big difference. 90% of users will be able to make use of a simple image editor. 0.1% of users will be able to make use of 3D and AR.
blibble 9y ago
most of it will come back when he gets a new major update it's a feature!
- allenwalker2160 9y ago
  I have never seen any of those coming back after 2 major upates on Window 10 Home. I keep checking after each installation but I cant find those.

I set up my brother in-law's new HP laptop he got from Costco and I had to spend over 2 hours removing crap from it. The amount of crapware installed (and a lot of them are MS apps) is unreal.

HenryBemis 9y ago

(Unfortunately) HP has been loading their machines with crapware for about a decade now. :(

Stranger43 9y ago
It's not just HP it's just about everything that comes out an retail store without an apple logo on it(unless you count itunes/facetime as unwanted software in which case it's just about everything). If you buy high end laptops from a business partner or directly from the vendor and make sure you get a pro(paid) version of windows things are better but the razor thin margins of the consumer market make it hard to avoid strange and badly designed attempts at price differentiation and/or payola schemes.
- suby 9y ago
  If anyone wants a Windows laptop without bloatware, I think the best bet is through a Microsoft Store. They sell "signature edition" laptops which are supposed to contain Windows and nothing else. That's if the marketing is to be believed, anyway, I personally have never done this. On another note, I got an XPS 13 from Dell with Ubuntu pre-installed. As far as I could tell, the only extra software on there was some drivers. I realize that the average person isn't going to want a Linux laptop though.
  - AlphaSite 9y ago
    Windows its self installs candy crush and other crap.
TwoNineA 9y ago
Why is MS cramming down my throat some 3D Pain thing, Augmented Reality crap and other apps I don't care about? Edit: Oh and Camera app. On a desktop. Without even a webcam. What is the justification for that?
- TomMarius 9y ago
  To be fair there was a Camera application at least since Windows XP, but it was hidden from the Start menu.
- djaychela 9y ago
  >some 3D Pain thing Was that intentional? Made me laugh either way.
  - gruez 9y ago
    *paint
- Amezarak 9y ago
  > Why is MS cramming down my throat some 3D Pain thing, Augmented Reality crap and other apps I don't care about? How many OSs come without any graphics applications installed? > Edit: Oh and Camera app. On a desktop. Without even a webcam. What is the justification for that? Because a lot of hardware does have a webcam and thus benefits from having the app, while hardware without it sees nothing but a negligible HHD space impact.
  - Sylos 9y ago
    Coming without any graphical applications and coming with 3D or AR software is a big difference. 90% of users will be able to make use of a simple image editor. 0.1% of users will be able to make use of 3D and AR.

blibble 9y ago

most of it will come back when he gets a new major update it's a feature!

allenwalker2160 9y ago
I have never seen any of those coming back after 2 major upates on Window 10 Home. I keep checking after each installation but I cant find those.