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You're just making assumptions. All we know is that there's a failure. We don't know what kind of and how many errors triggered the failure, nor do we know wha
by blub 9y ago
You're just making assumptions. All we know is that there's a failure.
We don't know what kind of and how many errors triggered the failure, nor do we know what the faults causing the errors were.
We certainly don't know what kind of hazard analysis they did and what kind of mitigations they have in place, nor do we know whether they accepted a specific amount of residual risk for e.g. economic or market pressure reasons.
We don't know what kind of QC they do.
Without this information, it's pointless to talk about how things feel or seem. This is a very large engineering organization, working on a very large and complex system. It's not possible to find the root cause (or any cause) of a failure by using guesswork or by reporting to familiar failure cases.
- TheSpiceIsLife 9y ago> Without this information, it's pointless to talk about how things feel or seem. Au contraire! Without this information we can only talk about how things feel or seem.
- nicky0 9y agoAu contraire yourself. Your statement that this is the only thing we can talk about, does not contradict the assertion that talking about it is pointless.
- TheSpiceIsLife 9y agoRemind me not to invite you to parties ;)
- nicky0 9y agoRemember not to invite me to parties.
- dcow 9y agoExactly. One can discuss and imagine all they want without full information and it's very normal and socially and personally productive. I'd refrain from issuing final judgements unless you have "all the info" but that's pretty obvious.
- blub 9y agoOne can gossip about Apple's technical problems, but it's neither interesting nor a good use of the time of most of the people on HN I'd imagine. I don't see how that's productive, what has been "produced" here? Even the reddit comment from an (alleged) Apple employee was contradicted by other (alleged) Apple employees. Gathering any insights into Apple's quality issues does not seem to be possible at all from internet comments... that makes the whole thing misleading and pointless to me.
- dcow 9y agoI was speaking in a slightly more general sense. I mean what can we as humans do then? Just shut up and go on our way? I don't necessarily disagree that there isn't much of tangible value to be gained for us, but I don't think it's useless to discuss these scenarios. Hopefully it helps us human inform future decisions we may all have to make one day, and if people talk about problems enough they have a way of becoming acknowledged.
- blub 9y agoOr we can not talk and save everyone some time.