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With all its problems, I built a MEAN (MongoDB, Express, Angular, Node) app from zero knowledge to production 2 years ago far faster than this React, Apollo, Gr

With all its problems, I built a MEAN (MongoDB, Express, Angular, Node) app from zero knowledge to production 2 years ago far faster than this React, Apollo, GraphQL, and Postgres app I'm building from zero knowledge.

gremlinsinc 9y ago
Speed isn't always a great thing... If it takes you 2x faster to build but 10x extra support/maintenance after the fact and eventually you need to migrate to postgres anyway because of acid features and stability.. then the time/money loss > benefits. Build something the right way first, even if it does take longer though I use rbdms(mysql or postgres) all the time with an ORM and the ORM does most of the heavy lifting. (Laravel/Eloquent in my case).. so I still develop pretty rapidly. I'm sure if you use pg+react on multiple projects eventually the speed to launch will increase...
- zappo2938 9y ago
  It is honestly a nightmare. I had to make a decision which framework to invest learning in with very limited funds. At the time, the big choices where Angular which had been established and backed by Google and React which was still very new with a much smaller community. I went with Angular and by the time I learned everything I needed, everyone wanted to hire React developers. Running out of money, I ended selling all my belongings, moving to a new city, and doing Backbone.js development. I've been working on learning React for the last several months not earning money and it is more difficult to learn than either Angular or Backbone because it isn't as opinionated driving me to have to learn each tool to decide which is best. My mind craves structure. Whereas most developers have 2 years React experience on me. I figure if I waited 6 months to learn JavaScript frameworks, React would have been the better choice and I would have been far better off than what happened. In a way the MEAN stack screwed me.

gremlinsinc 9y ago

Speed isn't always a great thing... If it takes you 2x faster to build but 10x extra support/maintenance after the fact and eventually you need to migrate to postgres anyway because of acid features and stability.. then the time/money loss > benefits. Build something the right way first, even if it does take longer though I use rbdms(mysql or postgres) all the time with an ORM and the ORM does most of the heavy lifting. (Laravel/Eloquent in my case).. so I still develop pretty rapidly. I'm sure if you use pg+react on multiple projects eventually the speed to launch will increase...

zappo2938 9y ago
It is honestly a nightmare. I had to make a decision which framework to invest learning in with very limited funds. At the time, the big choices where Angular which had been established and backed by Google and React which was still very new with a much smaller community. I went with Angular and by the time I learned everything I needed, everyone wanted to hire React developers. Running out of money, I ended selling all my belongings, moving to a new city, and doing Backbone.js development. I've been working on learning React for the last several months not earning money and it is more difficult to learn than either Angular or Backbone because it isn't as opinionated driving me to have to learn each tool to decide which is best. My mind craves structure. Whereas most developers have 2 years React experience on me. I figure if I waited 6 months to learn JavaScript frameworks, React would have been the better choice and I would have been far better off than what happened. In a way the MEAN stack screwed me.