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> [...] iOS [...] > [...] Google infecting the market with proprietary stuff. You know that Apple's iOS is proprietary while Google's AOSP is open-source? As

by jhasse 9y ago

> [...] iOS [...] > [...] Google infecting the market with proprietary stuff. You know that Apple's iOS is proprietary while Google's AOSP is open-source? As others have pointed out: AOSP + F-Droid + DAVdroid is the way to go.

bad_user 9y ago
Irrelevant in this context. Open Standards matter more than Open Source. The former is designed for interoperability. The later is designed for forking. The difference is subtle, but you can't fork your way out of Google's control of the market, unless you have Google-like resources. Big companies have tried and failed. Chrome is now the new IExplorer and its Open Source nature does not matter, quite the contrary, the danger is now less visible than it was with IExplorer, because compared to Microsoft they can use OSS for marketing and they aren't dropping the ball on its development.
- jhasse 9y ago
  Open Standards: OGG: https://caniuse.com/#search=ogg https://caniuse.com/#search=ogg WebM (VP8, VP9): https://caniuse.com/#search=vp9 https://caniuse.com/#search=vp9 Guess who's pushing the proprietary standard H.265: https://caniuse.com/#search=h.265 https://caniuse.com/#search=h.265 Another Open Standard: USB Type C. Guess who's pushing their own proprietary standard. It is true though, that Chrome is starting to control the browser market which isn't a good thing. Mozilla is the solution here, not Apple. The new "Internet Explorer" is Safari: https://dev.to/nektro/safari-is-the-new-internet-explorer-1df0 https://dev.to/nektro/safari-is-the-new-internet-explorer-1d... Furthermore: You can change the browser (engine) on Android. You can't on iOS.
  - bad_user 9y ago
    For me companies are not sports teams. I can criticize or applaud a company for one choice or product independent of everything else. Actually if you were to look at my comments history, I've always been more critical of Apple. Yes, you can change the browser on Android. In this context I don't care. In my eyes Google has become an enemy of open standards.

by jhasse 9y ago

bad_user 9y ago

Irrelevant in this context. Open Standards matter more than Open Source. The former is designed for interoperability. The later is designed for forking. The difference is subtle, but you can't fork your way out of Google's control of the market, unless you have Google-like resources. Big companies have tried and failed. Chrome is now the new IExplorer and its Open Source nature does not matter, quite the contrary, the danger is now less visible than it was with IExplorer, because compared to Microsoft they can use OSS for marketing and they aren't dropping the ball on its development.

jhasse 9y ago
Open Standards: OGG: https://caniuse.com/#search=ogg https://caniuse.com/#search=ogg WebM (VP8, VP9): https://caniuse.com/#search=vp9 https://caniuse.com/#search=vp9 Guess who's pushing the proprietary standard H.265: https://caniuse.com/#search=h.265 https://caniuse.com/#search=h.265 Another Open Standard: USB Type C. Guess who's pushing their own proprietary standard. It is true though, that Chrome is starting to control the browser market which isn't a good thing. Mozilla is the solution here, not Apple. The new "Internet Explorer" is Safari: https://dev.to/nektro/safari-is-the-new-internet-explorer-1df0 https://dev.to/nektro/safari-is-the-new-internet-explorer-1d... Furthermore: You can change the browser (engine) on Android. You can't on iOS.
- bad_user 9y ago
  For me companies are not sports teams. I can criticize or applaud a company for one choice or product independent of everything else. Actually if you were to look at my comments history, I've always been more critical of Apple. Yes, you can change the browser on Android. In this context I don't care. In my eyes Google has become an enemy of open standards.