That's true, although I wouldn't call containers "clutter", they have multiple uses. But yes, flexbox though easy and logical, still requires messing around if

That's true, although I wouldn't call containers "clutter", they have multiple uses. But yes, flexbox though easy and logical, still requires messing around if you need to reposition or change the configuration of things. It's not awful but probably slower than css grid. For me, I don't usually need to switch things around too much with layout, I sort that out before build.