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Out of curiosity, who or what has designated you an “ethical UX designer”? I’m sure you could find an Apple designer who would claim that forcing people to upgr

by GuiA 9y ago

Out of curiosity, who or what has designated you an “ethical UX designer”? I’m sure you could find an Apple designer who would claim that forcing people to upgrade ensures that their device is patched and secure, preventing many potentially livelihood threatening problems down the line, so they are just as ethical of an UX designer as you are, if not more so since you do not want to protect people from their device being hacked into and their personal info stolen.

antoinevg 9y ago
Only if the incessant streams of breaking updates were primarily about device security would this be a valid argument.
- amazingman 9y ago
  The invocation of “primarily” here suggests that your mind is refusing to address reality because it conflicts with your ideals.
  - salvar 9y ago
    What an amazingly deep analysis of a person's mind just based on a few words.
Firadeoclus 9y ago
What was described is not "forcing people to upgrade" but tricking people into unintentionally upgrading. Your argument can be used to justify the former but not the latter.
sizzle 9y ago
"Out of curiosity, who or what has designated you an “ethical UX designer”?" Simply put, I would never allow these dark design patterns into the product if I was the designer, by arguing that it would affect perceived trustworthiness of the company and brand credibility if dark patterns start to become pervasive and the norm across the product. As a professional UX designer, it's my duty to be the voice of the user and I'd put my neck on the line to make sure I voiced my concern before they went over my head and implemented dark patterns. I'll never sign off on it. The issue is a lack of accountability by designers/PMs who hide behind the company name when these dark patterns are exposed. In an era when companies like Facebook sway political elections through their dark pattern designed newsfeeds, watchdog groups and regulatory bodies need to be created to keep them in check.

by GuiA 9y ago

antoinevg 9y ago

Only if the incessant streams of breaking updates were primarily about device security would this be a valid argument.

amazingman 9y ago
The invocation of “primarily” here suggests that your mind is refusing to address reality because it conflicts with your ideals.
- salvar 9y ago
  What an amazingly deep analysis of a person's mind just based on a few words.

Firadeoclus 9y ago

What was described is not "forcing people to upgrade" but tricking people into unintentionally upgrading. Your argument can be used to justify the former but not the latter.

sizzle 9y ago

"Out of curiosity, who or what has designated you an “ethical UX designer”?" Simply put, I would never allow these dark design patterns into the product if I was the designer, by arguing that it would affect perceived trustworthiness of the company and brand credibility if dark patterns start to become pervasive and the norm across the product. As a professional UX designer, it's my duty to be the voice of the user and I'd put my neck on the line to make sure I voiced my concern before they went over my head and implemented dark patterns. I'll never sign off on it. The issue is a lack of accountability by designers/PMs who hide behind the company name when these dark patterns are exposed. In an era when companies like Facebook sway political elections through their dark pattern designed newsfeeds, watchdog groups and regulatory bodies need to be created to keep them in check.