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Yes, but Toyota’s and VW’s cars run on dead dinosaurs - Tesla’s are electric. Who cares how many combustion engines the veteran car manufacturers can peddle? S

by flexie 9y ago

Yes, but Toyota’s and VW’s cars run on dead dinosaurs - Tesla’s are electric. Who cares how many combustion engines the veteran car manufacturers can peddle? Show me some EVs and I would happily buy VW.

nik736 9y ago
VW has the e-Golf
- robin_reala 9y ago
  And the e-up! http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/up-pa/explore/e-up http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/up-pa/explore/e-up
  - flexie 9y ago
    The e-up has a range of 99 miles. That might impress VW who says: "One charge, 99 miles. The e-up!’s impressive range makes it perfect for day to day driving." But it's less than half of the standard Tesla Model 3. It's simply not enough. What is that after a couple of years or in cold weather. 80 miles? You will be driving around with constant range anxiety, even if you are just in the city.
- flexie 9y ago
  The e-Golf has a range of 125 miles (200 km). The standard model 3 has a range of 220 miles. The upgrade has a range of 310 miles. The model S and Y have even longer ranges. Now, if VW had a charging network, that would be less of an issue, but they also don't have that yet. VW does not have a competitive EV yet.
sushid 9y ago
Tesla also happens to run on dead dinosaurs, at least in the US... Arguably less efficient since it has to be converted into electricity first. About 64% of electricity in 2016 was generated using coal or natural gas in the US. [0] https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=electricity_in_the_united_states https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=electrici...
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  Whether it’s coal or natural gas, it’s still more efficient to run an electric car on those fuels, generated at scale, then a petrol internal combustion engine. 96 percent of new generation coming online this year is renewables. Your electric car gets cleaned every year, your gasonline car does not.
- flexie 9y ago
  And nuclear power, solar and wind. And even if it only ran on electricity created at coal plants, it would be more efficient than a combustion engine.

by flexie 9y ago

nik736 9y ago

VW has the e-Golf

robin_reala 9y ago
And the e-up! http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/up-pa/explore/e-up http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/up-pa/explore/e-up
- flexie 9y ago
  The e-up has a range of 99 miles. That might impress VW who says: "One charge, 99 miles. The e-up!’s impressive range makes it perfect for day to day driving." But it's less than half of the standard Tesla Model 3. It's simply not enough. What is that after a couple of years or in cold weather. 80 miles? You will be driving around with constant range anxiety, even if you are just in the city.
flexie 9y ago
The e-Golf has a range of 125 miles (200 km). The standard model 3 has a range of 220 miles. The upgrade has a range of 310 miles. The model S and Y have even longer ranges. Now, if VW had a charging network, that would be less of an issue, but they also don't have that yet. VW does not have a competitive EV yet.

sushid 9y ago

Tesla also happens to run on dead dinosaurs, at least in the US... Arguably less efficient since it has to be converted into electricity first. About 64% of electricity in 2016 was generated using coal or natural gas in the US. [0] https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=electricity_in_the_united_states https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=electrici...

toomuchtodo 9y ago
Whether it’s coal or natural gas, it’s still more efficient to run an electric car on those fuels, generated at scale, then a petrol internal combustion engine. 96 percent of new generation coming online this year is renewables. Your electric car gets cleaned every year, your gasonline car does not.
flexie 9y ago
And nuclear power, solar and wind. And even if it only ran on electricity created at coal plants, it would be more efficient than a combustion engine.