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iPhone, iPad or apple app data. What you listen to on itunes. What you watch. Etc. They have to in order to tailor their services better, manage their infrastru

iPhone, iPad or apple app data. What you listen to on itunes. What you watch. Etc. They have to in order to tailor their services better, manage their infrastructure and of course plan for their future development. Apple uses their data to make better product to sell to you. They don't sell their data to advertisers because they don't need to. What is going to happen if iphones, ipads, etc don't sell as well?

Mononokay 9y ago
Then they'll only be able to share data as they agreed to with their Privacy Policy and User Agreements. So pre-change, they'll be able to do very little with your data, if any.
icanhackit 9y ago
> What is going to happen if iphones, ipads, etc don't sell as well? Given their track record on privacy, particularly using it as a selling point, they'd be poisoning the well pretty badly if they did this. It's more likely they'd burn through their cash before even thinking of selling user data. I can't see it happening on Tim Cook's watch or any of the existing executive team, but maybe an external hire.
millstone 9y ago
That "etc" sure has to carry a lot of implications. For example, see their Maps data collection practices: The data that Maps collects while you use the app — like search terms, navigation routing, and traffic information — is associated with random identifiers so it can’t be tied to your Apple ID. Or Apple Pay: When you use Apple Pay we don’t track what you’re buying, so we can’t build a purchase history to serve you ads. Or Siri: If you give your explicit consent, Apple can improve Siri and other intelligent features by analyzing how you use iCloud and the data from your account. Analysis happens only after the data has gone through privacy-enhancing techniques so that it cannot be associated with you or your account Note the word "can't" that appears over and over. Yes Apple necessarily records some data, e.g. for streaming services. But broadly speaking, Apple couldn't sell the data to advertisers even if they chose to, because they don't have the data.
- SpikeDad 9y ago
  And we know they don't because they're hated by advertisers. And the FBI evidently.

Mononokay 9y ago

Then they'll only be able to share data as they agreed to with their Privacy Policy and User Agreements. So pre-change, they'll be able to do very little with your data, if any.

icanhackit 9y ago

> What is going to happen if iphones, ipads, etc don't sell as well? Given their track record on privacy, particularly using it as a selling point, they'd be poisoning the well pretty badly if they did this. It's more likely they'd burn through their cash before even thinking of selling user data. I can't see it happening on Tim Cook's watch or any of the existing executive team, but maybe an external hire.

millstone 9y ago

That "etc" sure has to carry a lot of implications. For example, see their Maps data collection practices: The data that Maps collects while you use the app — like search terms, navigation routing, and traffic information — is associated with random identifiers so it can’t be tied to your Apple ID. Or Apple Pay: When you use Apple Pay we don’t track what you’re buying, so we can’t build a purchase history to serve you ads. Or Siri: If you give your explicit consent, Apple can improve Siri and other intelligent features by analyzing how you use iCloud and the data from your account. Analysis happens only after the data has gone through privacy-enhancing techniques so that it cannot be associated with you or your account Note the word "can't" that appears over and over. Yes Apple necessarily records some data, e.g. for streaming services. But broadly speaking, Apple couldn't sell the data to advertisers even if they chose to, because they don't have the data.

SpikeDad 9y ago
And we know they don't because they're hated by advertisers. And the FBI evidently.