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Have you ever been in a union? > "...pout over not getting enough money" You're trying to make striking sound childish but there are plenty of legitimate reas

Have you ever been in a union? > "...pout over not getting enough money" You're trying to make striking sound childish but there are plenty of legitimate reasons why unions go on strike.

madamelic 9y ago
>Have you ever been in a union? No. There is a reason I went into software development and not blue-collar work. ;) (Nothing wrong with it, just not the stuff I want to deal with. Unions included. I lose enough money already to the gov't.)
- Caveman_Coder 9y ago
  I went the trades route because I didn't have any concrete plan for college when I finished high school and I wanted to get some form of gainful employment so an electrical apprenticeship seemed like a good idea until I figured out something else. I have been in a union before (nearly a decade of industrial electrician/power plant operator work before I obtained my CS degree). You bet there is corruption in some unions, but perhaps it is different in the "skilled trades" though, at least it seems that way from my personal experience. Avoiding blue collar work is a primary motivation for my transition to full time software dev...we'll see how it turns out though because the office culture/work environment is very foreign to me in many ways.
  - logfromblammo 9y ago
    I'd like to think that a tech worker's union composed of people already aware of white hat, grey hat, and black hat distinctions would be set up with some structural impediments to corruption. In my head, it would have similar structure to working groups, where stuff gets done by consensus, without anyone having so much authority that they can do an obviously wrong thing and still preserve their influence. I'm not sure how it would work to have a union that can essentially fork itself whenever the leadership goes bad, or even one that has no leadership to begin with, and manages everything with a consensus/compromise algorithm.

Have you ever been in a union? > "...pout over not getting enough money" You're trying to make striking sound childish but there are plenty of legitimate reasons why unions go on strike.

madamelic 9y ago

>Have you ever been in a union? No. There is a reason I went into software development and not blue-collar work. ;) (Nothing wrong with it, just not the stuff I want to deal with. Unions included. I lose enough money already to the gov't.)

Caveman_Coder 9y ago
I went the trades route because I didn't have any concrete plan for college when I finished high school and I wanted to get some form of gainful employment so an electrical apprenticeship seemed like a good idea until I figured out something else. I have been in a union before (nearly a decade of industrial electrician/power plant operator work before I obtained my CS degree). You bet there is corruption in some unions, but perhaps it is different in the "skilled trades" though, at least it seems that way from my personal experience. Avoiding blue collar work is a primary motivation for my transition to full time software dev...we'll see how it turns out though because the office culture/work environment is very foreign to me in many ways.
- logfromblammo 9y ago
  I'd like to think that a tech worker's union composed of people already aware of white hat, grey hat, and black hat distinctions would be set up with some structural impediments to corruption. In my head, it would have similar structure to working groups, where stuff gets done by consensus, without anyone having so much authority that they can do an obviously wrong thing and still preserve their influence. I'm not sure how it would work to have a union that can essentially fork itself whenever the leadership goes bad, or even one that has no leadership to begin with, and manages everything with a consensus/compromise algorithm.