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> In London if you switched everyone who was driving to public transit you'd need to double the capacity to do so I sincerely doubt that. With trains every 2-3

by dx034 9y ago

> In London if you switched everyone who was driving to public transit you'd need to double the capacity to do so I sincerely doubt that. With trains every 2-3 minutes and 500-1000 people per train, each tube line transports probably at least 2-3 people per second in each direction. The road traffic above the surface is a fraction of that. Removing all cars from the road (most of which aren't private cars anyway) during peak time would maybe increase demand by some 5-10%. That's different for trains, obviously. To replace the M1 North of London you'd need to increase train service significantly.

JumpCrisscross 9y ago
> Removing all cars from the road (most of which aren't private cars anyway) during peak time would maybe increase demand by some 5-10% Transportation demand is devious. People might travel more and further if it’s free. This could also affect where people move and to where they are willing to commute.
- dx034 9y ago
  I don't think people spend more time than necessary on any London tube line during rush hour because it's cheap. Any extra time spent is trying to squeeze into an already packed train or waiting at barriers when the station closes due to overcrowding. But that's still faster than taking the car, just cycling tends to be a bit faster door2door.
martinald 9y ago
I don't mean that though. In Greater London (M25) 50% of journeys are by private car. For commuting to and from work transit use is a lot higher, but car usage is still 50% of all journeys. There are so many areas really badly served in outer london by transit that cars are used a lot.
tom_mellior 9y ago
> Removing all cars from the road (most of which aren't private cars anyway) during peak time would maybe increase demand by some 5-10%. Also, it would make buses faster and thus more attractive vs. the tube, further reducing the increase in demand on the tube.

by dx034 9y ago

JumpCrisscross 9y ago

> Removing all cars from the road (most of which aren't private cars anyway) during peak time would maybe increase demand by some 5-10% Transportation demand is devious. People might travel more and further if it’s free. This could also affect where people move and to where they are willing to commute.

dx034 9y ago
I don't think people spend more time than necessary on any London tube line during rush hour because it's cheap. Any extra time spent is trying to squeeze into an already packed train or waiting at barriers when the station closes due to overcrowding. But that's still faster than taking the car, just cycling tends to be a bit faster door2door.

martinald 9y ago

I don't mean that though. In Greater London (M25) 50% of journeys are by private car. For commuting to and from work transit use is a lot higher, but car usage is still 50% of all journeys. There are so many areas really badly served in outer london by transit that cars are used a lot.

tom_mellior 9y ago

> Removing all cars from the road (most of which aren't private cars anyway) during peak time would maybe increase demand by some 5-10%. Also, it would make buses faster and thus more attractive vs. the tube, further reducing the increase in demand on the tube.