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This, to a lesser degree, can be found in the United States, if you can find the right place. I know because I speak from experience. I raised two sons in a c
by redleggedfrog 9y ago
This, to a lesser degree, can be found in the United States, if you can find the right place. I know because I speak from experience. I raised two sons in a community that allowed them exercise personal freedom and benefit from a scholastic experience similar to what is discussed in the article (I have not read the book). Ours is not the only such place, as I have friends who have found them as well.
Kids get to school on their own from all over town, by bike, bus, or walk, even in the early grades. Summers are pretty much a cacophony of kid activity until 10PM (or later). No one thinks twice about kids being out on their own.
My sons regaled me of stories of setting things on fire in chemistry class, field trips where kids fell in the creek (termed Lessons in Hypothermia), and the cool tools available in jewelry class, of all things.
It would seem to me these communities are smaller (10-20K) and politically progressive. Ours has a tax just to fund schools. You have to have a town that is willing to invest in the children and can attract good teachers. Even the non-secular people are fairly progressive as well.
I couldn't really have asked for much better living in the United States. Both sons are off to college and happy as can be, so I am grateful they got the community upbringing that they did.
One of the things that might be considered a drawback is preparation for the "real-world." When my oldest went off to college he had a difficult time adjusting to people. The lack of self control, respect for the law, willful ignorance, and just plain meanness, was surprising to him. It makes it difficult to try and nudge him to experience the greater world at large.
Another drawback is expense. The cost of living is high. A house here is fully $100,000-$150,000 more than a similar house in a town 15 miles away. This creates a dichotomy where families want to live here, but often can't afford it. Low to mid income housing is a politically hot topic.
- rayiner 9y agoi don’t think “politically progressive” is a determinative. The DC suburbs skew extremely left, by are oppressive as hell for children. Some parents recently got CPS sicced on them for letting their 8 year old walk less than a mile to school.
- redleggedfrog 9y agoWhile I'm sure there are lots of politically progressive places that are problems, I can't imagine having a community similar to ours without it. We're an island of progressive surrounded by numerous similar sized towns that are decidedly conservative and have more community problems and are less attractive academically. But they're less expensive to live in, too.
- smokey_the_bear 9y agoI am very curious what town you live in. We are looking for a place to move with our young children.
- redleggedfrog 9y agoAshland, Oregon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashland%2C_Oregon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashland%2C_Oregon It's a very welcoming community.
- smokey_the_bear 9y agoThank you. We took an exploratory road trip to check out Corvallis and Eugene two years ago, and we stopped in Ashland and did have a very nice time at a park there. We hadn't actually considered the town, I'd assumed it was very conservative for some reason.
- redleggedfrog 9y agoYou wouldn't be blamed for thinking that. The entire Rogue Valley is fairly conservative except for Ashland (and to a lesser degree, Talent).
- zeveb 9y ago> While I'm sure there are lots of politically progressive places that are problems, I can't imagine having a community similar to ours without it. There are a number of traditionalist conservative intentional communities doing much the same things. It's kinda like with homeschoolers: the left-wing & right-wing homeschoolers end up doing many similar things, and are different from the mainstream public-schoolers in similar ways.