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He posted the FOIAd docs here: https://surveillancevalley.com/the-tor-files/master-list https://surveillancevalley.com/the-tor-files/master-list He and I discu

He posted the FOIAd docs here: https://surveillancevalley.com/the-tor-files/master-list https://surveillancevalley.com/the-tor-files/master-list He and I discussed them a bit on Twitter: https://twitter.com/itdaniher/status/961307347950940161 https://twitter.com/itdaniher/status/961307347950940161 I was not impressed by his response. The "bunch of emails" seemed remarkably banal. I've written similar emails about sponsored open-source work myself. edit: email stack 1: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4367176-Tor-BBG-correspondence-Stack-1.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4367176-Tor-BBG-corr... email stack 2: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4367193-Tor-BBG-correspondence-Stack-2.html https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4367193-Tor-BBG-corr...

emodendroket 9y ago
I haven't really had time to go through everything, so I was just going by what I remembered from the interview. The idea that they were sharing zero-days seemed like a big deal but I didn't really see which one he was referring to skimming those earlier, so I didn't bother linking. The other point he harped on a lot was them taking marching orders (for instance, that the application should be localized for Farsi during a time when the US was looking to promote dissenters in Iran). I am reading the book now so I feel like I'll have a better judgment once I've finished. I didn't find your Twitter exchange very illuminating either way.
- emodendroket 9y ago
  The zero-day claim is repeated here. https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/960889610841837569 https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/960889610841837569
  - jerheinze 9y ago
    Can he give a legitimate source for that very serious claim? Note how he overplays a lot of things that are publicly and openly known. Yes, the Tor Project got funding at various points in time from the state department to improve "human rights" and "freedom of speech" around the world, especially certain countries deemed hostile to the US. So what? Yes, Roger Dingledine publicly stated (in a CCC talk) that he gave a talk at the NSA and another one at the GCHQ. So what? Does that mean that he's suddenly an NSA shill that will try to implement a backdoor in Tor for the simple reason that he gave a talk to them? If the Internet is such a surveillance threat, and Tor doesn't help, why doesn't this Yasha Levine point to a single alternative? Edit: Went through this https://twitter.com/itdaniher/status/961307347950940161 https://twitter.com/itdaniher/status/961307347950940161 It seems he's just a FUD spreader and not someone interested in actual solutions.
    - emodendroket 9y ago
      Well, I'd guess the footnote represented a source, so I am thinking it is in the book. As for "actual solutions," what do you have in mind? His claim is that it's a political problem and that throwing tech at the problem won't solve it.
      - jerheinze 9y ago
        He's just a FUD spreader, as demonstrated on the other posts, so just move on. If you think Tor isn't a technical solution then please provide alternatives.

emodendroket 9y ago

I haven't really had time to go through everything, so I was just going by what I remembered from the interview. The idea that they were sharing zero-days seemed like a big deal but I didn't really see which one he was referring to skimming those earlier, so I didn't bother linking. The other point he harped on a lot was them taking marching orders (for instance, that the application should be localized for Farsi during a time when the US was looking to promote dissenters in Iran). I am reading the book now so I feel like I'll have a better judgment once I've finished. I didn't find your Twitter exchange very illuminating either way.

emodendroket 9y ago
The zero-day claim is repeated here. https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/960889610841837569 https://twitter.com/yashalevine/status/960889610841837569
- jerheinze 9y ago
  Can he give a legitimate source for that very serious claim? Note how he overplays a lot of things that are publicly and openly known. Yes, the Tor Project got funding at various points in time from the state department to improve "human rights" and "freedom of speech" around the world, especially certain countries deemed hostile to the US. So what? Yes, Roger Dingledine publicly stated (in a CCC talk) that he gave a talk at the NSA and another one at the GCHQ. So what? Does that mean that he's suddenly an NSA shill that will try to implement a backdoor in Tor for the simple reason that he gave a talk to them? If the Internet is such a surveillance threat, and Tor doesn't help, why doesn't this Yasha Levine point to a single alternative? Edit: Went through this https://twitter.com/itdaniher/status/961307347950940161 https://twitter.com/itdaniher/status/961307347950940161 It seems he's just a FUD spreader and not someone interested in actual solutions.
  - emodendroket 9y ago
    Well, I'd guess the footnote represented a source, so I am thinking it is in the book. As for "actual solutions," what do you have in mind? His claim is that it's a political problem and that throwing tech at the problem won't solve it.
    - jerheinze 9y ago
      He's just a FUD spreader, as demonstrated on the other posts, so just move on. If you think Tor isn't a technical solution then please provide alternatives.