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> Initial steps included writing job descriptions that avoided masculine phrases like "Ninja rock star coder." When my fellow male engineers see that in a job
by horsecaptin 9y ago
> Initial steps included writing job descriptions that avoided masculine phrases like "Ninja rock star coder."
When my fellow male engineers see that in a job ad, they avoid it like the plague.
> Now that 17 of Gusto's 70 engineers are female.
After a focused campaign to hiring women, Gusto's results are nowhere near 50/50. And they had to go out of their way to hire women and focus resources to attracting women.
The male engineers at Gusto were no doubt happy to see diversity, especially since Gusto did not drop their standards just because an applicant is female.
- mrkurt 9y agoThat's an extreme (because it makes it obvious) example — but the point is more broadly applicable. Leaving that one out attracts a more diverse set of applicants, like your fellow engineers, and more women. If you go the rock star route, you attract a very narrow band of person. There's even more subtle phrasing in developer job postings that attracts men and discourages women, though. Even something as benign as "quarterly company retreats in the mountains" might discourage parents, probably women more than men.
- millermp12 9y agoSo will the NBA be adopting these practices any time soon wrt Asians aND Hebrews (because Diversity)?
- jkmcf 9y agoNot so much "masculine" as juvenile.
- presidentender 9y agoBoth those terms are often accurate and frankly they're correlated.
- tomaha 9y agoYes. It's pretty much always a sign that they don't understand engineering and it's more like a Kindergarten that discovered putting together code constructs makes lights blink.
- bassman9000 9y agoGusto's results are nowhere near 50/50 https://datausa.io/profile/cip/110701/#demographics https://datausa.io/profile/cip/110701/#demographics It's unrealistic to expect a 50/50 distribution in the workforce when it's 80/20 in the academia.
- horsecaptin 9y agoHey, they aren't even at 80/20 after all the hard work. A lot of women feel that it should be 50/50 since more than half of the population if female, so I was addressing that sentiment.
- ralusek 9y agoDo you think that 50% of boilermakers should be female? Should 50% of welders be female? Mechanics? Oil rig workers? We should probably be pretty upset that only 2% of dental hygienists are men as well, right? https://www.dol.gov/wb/stats/occ_gender_share_em_1020_txt.htm https://www.dol.gov/wb/stats/occ_gender_share_em_1020_txt.ht...
- horsecaptin 9y agoI think cultural change when enforced by laws, while quicker on the surface, results in a lot of resentment. The discrimination becomes stronger and more difficult to detect. Businesses should be free to hire who they want. I'd love to see more female mechanics, electricians, carpenters and plumbers. In the US at least, those are well paying jobs. And yes, more males should consider nursing and dental hygiene. Those are well paying jobs as well. Female nurses see and do some incredible things on a daily basis that any male would have no trouble respecting and admiring.
- millermp12 9y agoDon't forget trench diggers and sewer cleaners. Cuz dat where da $ is...