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Mostly it was the execs that didn't want to go with Android, because they feared they would end up just another me-to brand fighting over scraps. That said, it

Mostly it was the execs that didn't want to go with Android, because they feared they would end up just another me-to brand fighting over scraps. That said, it seems that much of what sunk Nokia back then was American pension funds pushing to turn a Finnish company American. In a way it was similar to when Stringer was put in charge of Sony, a culture clash of epic proportions...

StudentStuff 9y ago
Thing is, so long as Nokia can be the best "me too" brand with immediate Android updates and long support lifespans, coupled with decent hardware design, they'll beat out nearly all their competitors. Do you really want to buy that HTC phone or midrange Samsung that will never see an update to Android 8? Generally not!
addicted 9y ago
"Mostly it was the execs that didn't want to go with Android, because they feared they would end up just another me-to brand fighting over scraps." I know this is what they claimed, but this made absolutely no sense. Windows Phone wasn't a closed OS available only to Nokia. Windows Phone would only make them another me-too brand fighting over even fewer scraps, but with an OS that was far more immature, had little to no user base, had little to no 3rd party support, and had a UI they could personalize even less than Android. With Android at the very least they could have had some differentiation by creating their own skins and launchers, etc. but Windows Phone did not allow them to do even that. And if they did not want to differentiate on OS, then why not go with the OS that had far more 3rd party support than the one that had virtually none?
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > I know this is what they claimed, but this made absolutely no sense. Windows Phone wasn't a closed OS available only to Nokia. Windows Phone would only make them another me-too brand fighting over even fewer scraps, It makes sense, even if it turned out to be a bad choice: while, yes, they wouldn't have been alone and the committed WinPhone audience was, well, negligible, they wouldn't be playing catchup to established vendors on the platform; they'd be on a more level playing field, and if the platform took off and they managed to be (one of the few) early dominant players on the platform, the rewards could be great. OTOH, the platform didn't take off, so...

StudentStuff 9y ago

Thing is, so long as Nokia can be the best "me too" brand with immediate Android updates and long support lifespans, coupled with decent hardware design, they'll beat out nearly all their competitors. Do you really want to buy that HTC phone or midrange Samsung that will never see an update to Android 8? Generally not!

addicted 9y ago

"Mostly it was the execs that didn't want to go with Android, because they feared they would end up just another me-to brand fighting over scraps." I know this is what they claimed, but this made absolutely no sense. Windows Phone wasn't a closed OS available only to Nokia. Windows Phone would only make them another me-too brand fighting over even fewer scraps, but with an OS that was far more immature, had little to no user base, had little to no 3rd party support, and had a UI they could personalize even less than Android. With Android at the very least they could have had some differentiation by creating their own skins and launchers, etc. but Windows Phone did not allow them to do even that. And if they did not want to differentiate on OS, then why not go with the OS that had far more 3rd party support than the one that had virtually none?

dragonwriter 9y ago
> I know this is what they claimed, but this made absolutely no sense. Windows Phone wasn't a closed OS available only to Nokia. Windows Phone would only make them another me-too brand fighting over even fewer scraps, It makes sense, even if it turned out to be a bad choice: while, yes, they wouldn't have been alone and the committed WinPhone audience was, well, negligible, they wouldn't be playing catchup to established vendors on the platform; they'd be on a more level playing field, and if the platform took off and they managed to be (one of the few) early dominant players on the platform, the rewards could be great. OTOH, the platform didn't take off, so...