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Disclaimer: Am Googler My 2c is that for mass consumption, streaming is where the puck is going, not short-form videos. Kids are watching Minecraft streaming,

Disclaimer: Am Googler My 2c is that for mass consumption, streaming is where the puck is going, not short-form videos. Kids are watching Minecraft streaming, they're not watching punks like Logan Paul until they are in their teens, and my guess is as those younger kids get older, tastes will change and Paul et al will be done. And even when you think about teens, streamers like Dr Disrespect seem to capture far more zeitgeist than YouTubers. Is Casey Neistat really a thing anymore? IMHO Facebook really should be doubling-down on local sharing and improving that experience, Google Photos is far and away the best photo product for me. Replicating YouTube won't work, the quality of the platform and the network effects are too strong. Whether Facebook can do something disruptive like Twitch I don't know. Maybe IRL streaming of C-list celebrities like Snoop or Kylie Jenner?

MarkMc 9y ago
> IMHO Facebook really should be doubling-down on local sharing and improving that experience, Google Photos is far and away the best photo product for me. Do you mean that Google Photos is a better way for you to share your photos than Facebook?
- cflewis 9y ago
  It's better for my immediate family, worse for my social network as a whole.
kenning 9y ago
disagree, youtube is the place people go for better-edited, entertainment-focused video game content. pewdiepie is still #1 on youtube and has survived criticisms of being alt-right. also, vloggers and music videos will always be popular with the huge parts of the population that don't play 'core' games. online UGC video is still an immature industry so some of the best content for the average reddit user (20-30 y.o. male) is just mature vloggers criticizing immature vloggers (idubbbz, h3h3) but in the long run better things will surface ('every frame a painting' is an actually great channel for example) twitch has cut out a new market IMO, it's not directly replacing youtube. i expect different things on twitch -- generally speaking, more boring, unprofessional and unedited content that's focused almost entirely on learning how to play games better and occasional audience interaction. as for facebook, i have no idea what they should do because i don't know anyone who likes it anymore
dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
> Google Photos is far and away the best photo product for me This statement intrigued me a bit, so I decided to check out what Google Photos is (sorry, you have so many products and change them so quickly I'm not keeping up anymore). So it looks like a refurbished version of Picasa. I understand why someone would like to use it, but I also know why neither me nor many of my friends will ever use it: since we're forced to use Google services almost everywhere, every instance when we don't is a small win. For a growing number of people reducing dependency on Google is of paramount importance.
PeterisP 9y ago
IMHO you can't expect the preferences of particular age groups to stay the same as they age, as their needs change drastically because of their lifestyle. In particular, a major difference between streaming and edited short-form videos is the density of content, and the preference for that highly depends on the availability of your time. If you have all the free time in the world (or even an actual need to spend it because you're stuck waiting somewhere where you don't want to be), then streaming is excellent; if you're generally busy and overwhelmed with things you want/need to do, streaming sucks, you want an edited, compressed "highlight reel" that gets straight to the point. So the fact that streaming is the thing for particular group (even if generally trend-setting) doesn't mean that streaming is where the puck is going; they might stick with particular brands/services/tools/ecosystems because of the habits they form now, but they are likely to use less streaming in a decade (and the youngsters replacing them are going to take up streaming) because of changing needs in their life.

MarkMc 9y ago

> IMHO Facebook really should be doubling-down on local sharing and improving that experience, Google Photos is far and away the best photo product for me. Do you mean that Google Photos is a better way for you to share your photos than Facebook?

cflewis 9y ago
It's better for my immediate family, worse for my social network as a whole.

kenning 9y ago

disagree, youtube is the place people go for better-edited, entertainment-focused video game content. pewdiepie is still #1 on youtube and has survived criticisms of being alt-right. also, vloggers and music videos will always be popular with the huge parts of the population that don't play 'core' games. online UGC video is still an immature industry so some of the best content for the average reddit user (20-30 y.o. male) is just mature vloggers criticizing immature vloggers (idubbbz, h3h3) but in the long run better things will surface ('every frame a painting' is an actually great channel for example) twitch has cut out a new market IMO, it's not directly replacing youtube. i expect different things on twitch -- generally speaking, more boring, unprofessional and unedited content that's focused almost entirely on learning how to play games better and occasional audience interaction. as for facebook, i have no idea what they should do because i don't know anyone who likes it anymore

dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago

> Google Photos is far and away the best photo product for me This statement intrigued me a bit, so I decided to check out what Google Photos is (sorry, you have so many products and change them so quickly I'm not keeping up anymore). So it looks like a refurbished version of Picasa. I understand why someone would like to use it, but I also know why neither me nor many of my friends will ever use it: since we're forced to use Google services almost everywhere, every instance when we don't is a small win. For a growing number of people reducing dependency on Google is of paramount importance.

PeterisP 9y ago

IMHO you can't expect the preferences of particular age groups to stay the same as they age, as their needs change drastically because of their lifestyle. In particular, a major difference between streaming and edited short-form videos is the density of content, and the preference for that highly depends on the availability of your time. If you have all the free time in the world (or even an actual need to spend it because you're stuck waiting somewhere where you don't want to be), then streaming is excellent; if you're generally busy and overwhelmed with things you want/need to do, streaming sucks, you want an edited, compressed "highlight reel" that gets straight to the point. So the fact that streaming is the thing for particular group (even if generally trend-setting) doesn't mean that streaming is where the puck is going; they might stick with particular brands/services/tools/ecosystems because of the habits they form now, but they are likely to use less streaming in a decade (and the youngsters replacing them are going to take up streaming) because of changing needs in their life.