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Why is it the only form? You can certainly run your own IRC or Jabber server or something. I don't understand why you think only email can be run top to bottom.
by cup-of-tea 9y ago
Why is it the only form? You can certainly run your own IRC or Jabber server or something. I don't understand why you think only email can be run top to bottom.
Unfortunately email became stupid a long time ago. Partly thanks to braindead clients like Outhouse and partly thanks to Gmail. Remember when Gmail came out and they advertised "threads" as a feature? Yeah... we had threads before Outhouse et al. proliferated enough to make them useless.
And don't forget the way those clients make you "quote" previous messages.
Free software mailing lists still make email nice to use. Simple, plain text and intelligent.
- djsumdog 9y agoThreads that don't play nice with any other e-mail client, where Thudnerbird drafts would just fill up your thread history to the point it wouldn't make sense. And terribly broken IMAP support that wouldn't use IMAP labels, but instead transfer a separate copy of an e-mail to multiple folders if it had multiple labels. I thought Gmail was amazing when I first got it, and by 2012 I started running my own e-mail server when I realize it was a usability nightmare.
- heartbreak 9y agoIt's pretty confusing to refer to Microsoft Outlook as "Outhouse."
- Mononokay 9y agoVery Stallman-esque. https://stallman.org/apple.html https://stallman.org/apple.html
- cup-of-tea 9y agoOh I didn't realise you were the only person on HN who could work out what it means.
- pmlnr 9y agoYou can't have you IRC server and talk to another IRC server with it. I could still pull a BBS up but apart from FiDo, they don't talk to each other. Yes, I know about Matrix - doesn't have critical mass yet. I know about XMPP, but most of the XMPP servers don't allow other domains to talk to them. I agree with you on the dumbing down though.