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Can you just mine my data unobtrousively instead of screwing with every service I stupidly provide my lifes details? Already migrating, not because of the obvio

by nugi 9y ago

Can you just mine my data unobtrousively instead of screwing with every service I stupidly provide my lifes details? Already migrating, not because of the obvious privacy issues, but useability. How can a company that profits by knowing what people think and talk about, see so little of the house collapsing around them? Even free isn't cheap enough, it has to work. I think I speak for a fair number of HN readers when I say, Literally everything google offered 10-15 years ago was better. Talk, gmail, voice, search (with booleans!). Its all a wasteland now, begotten and forgotten for sweet advertising and big data deals.

ccarter84 9y ago
YES - the broken booleans! Also, RIP talk. Hangouts is a joke and is what killed me using it
halflings 9y ago
> I think I speak for a fair number of HN readers when I say, Literally everything google offered 10-15 years ago was better. Talk, gmail, voice, search (with booleans!). Its all a wasteland now, begotten and forgotten for sweet advertising and big data deals. Eh... I think you should speak for yourself and convince with arguments instead. How are these products worse? Search gives much more relevant users, pretty much killed SEO as a thing, now using page size and performance as metrics to push mobile-friendly websites higher when you're on your mobile. Gmail is just significantly better in every way.. including privacy: They stopped using emails for ads. [0] Of course, RIP Google Talk, but Voice is much better now, with a VoIP option coming soon.[1] [0] https://www.bloomberg.com/.../google-will-stop-reading-your-emails-for-gmail-ads https://www.bloomberg.com/.../google-will-stop-reading-your-... [1] https://9to5google.com/2017/01/26/google-voice-voip-integration-update/ https://9to5google.com/2017/01/26/google-voice-voip-integrat...
protomyth 9y ago
Well, since Google Voice blocked at least one of the US tribal community colleges to save Google some money, I cannot say I was ever a fan. It pointed to me a lack of any sense of empathy. I know we talk about Oracle being a lawnmower, but Google has a lot of parts that trend that way.
brokenmachine 9y ago
Also Google Reader. RIP.

by nugi 9y ago

ccarter84 9y ago

YES - the broken booleans! Also, RIP talk. Hangouts is a joke and is what killed me using it

halflings 9y ago

> I think I speak for a fair number of HN readers when I say, Literally everything google offered 10-15 years ago was better. Talk, gmail, voice, search (with booleans!). Its all a wasteland now, begotten and forgotten for sweet advertising and big data deals. Eh... I think you should speak for yourself and convince with arguments instead. How are these products worse? Search gives much more relevant users, pretty much killed SEO as a thing, now using page size and performance as metrics to push mobile-friendly websites higher when you're on your mobile. Gmail is just significantly better in every way.. including privacy: They stopped using emails for ads. [0] Of course, RIP Google Talk, but Voice is much better now, with a VoIP option coming soon.[1] [0] https://www.bloomberg.com/.../google-will-stop-reading-your-emails-for-gmail-ads https://www.bloomberg.com/.../google-will-stop-reading-your-... [1] https://9to5google.com/2017/01/26/google-voice-voip-integration-update/ https://9to5google.com/2017/01/26/google-voice-voip-integrat...

protomyth 9y ago

Well, since Google Voice blocked at least one of the US tribal community colleges to save Google some money, I cannot say I was ever a fan. It pointed to me a lack of any sense of empathy. I know we talk about Oracle being a lawnmower, but Google has a lot of parts that trend that way.

brokenmachine 9y ago

Also Google Reader. RIP.