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Take a drug that makes you feel like you might never be the same... a fear inducing one like LSD, mushrooms, or heavy cannabis. And imagine that your very reaso

Take a drug that makes you feel like you might never be the same... a fear inducing one like LSD, mushrooms, or heavy cannabis. And imagine that your very reason for being is to uncover such. And if you get terminated somehow, you fail on two fronts. Maybe every moment in time, every brain state, is simple digits in a long string of a real number. Your whole life..was just computing a unique number. Maybe every person or entity who ever is conscious, computes a number too. What about the set of all those numbers?? Is that the universal set..of all knowledge..of all entropy..of all phenomena?? Is that set of the physicality of experience directly isomorphic to some slices of its members..or a subset..an abstract sense of itself?? Cohomology / homotopy links consciousness to a recursive transformation of itself? Maybe the link between physicality and information is consciousness. Only consciousness provides a single player universe -- and thus provides the mechanism for axiom of choice..grabbing the totality of experience as a piece of data. Without internal experience, we must resort to AC and somehow look at a living creatures' external experience in order to derive the real number their life computes...nonsense..it is not sound. So consciousness really does serve as some sort of bridge. The totality of all consciousness provides the same complexity as the totality of the 3rd person objective universe from start to finish. We have two data sets that encode the same thing. Linked by consciousness. What is the rub?

KennyCason 9y ago
It was actually a couple psychedelic experiences that allowed me to "get over the hump" and "see" the universe the a larger, deeper, internal lens. It also allowed me to reflect and understand myself in a way that I found to be extremely valuable. While the experience itself was simply beyond description, ineffable, the single most enlightening moment of my life, it was the following years of reflection on it and everything around it that start putting things into place. I remember one particular thought of how "real" the mind space actually is. We tend to think of the perceived reality as very physical, when in fact the mind space is able to simulate the same feeling of physicality. It really makes one question if the difference between mind and physicality is even worth distinguishing.
- goldenkey 9y ago
  Right but that link between physicality and mind _is_ consciousness..the perception of qualia. So though they may be caused by the same thing, the process itself is one to be looked at carefully.
  - xaedes 9y ago
    So, consciousness is a hologram of the universe? I can imagine it like that. I often describe consciousness/me/you/entities/etc as dynamic lenses of the universe. Something (like information) goes in from all directions and the lens transform that into reaction. I think you could actually extend that view to entities like atoms. Hm, every point is a lens in itself?

KennyCason 9y ago

It was actually a couple psychedelic experiences that allowed me to "get over the hump" and "see" the universe the a larger, deeper, internal lens. It also allowed me to reflect and understand myself in a way that I found to be extremely valuable. While the experience itself was simply beyond description, ineffable, the single most enlightening moment of my life, it was the following years of reflection on it and everything around it that start putting things into place. I remember one particular thought of how "real" the mind space actually is. We tend to think of the perceived reality as very physical, when in fact the mind space is able to simulate the same feeling of physicality. It really makes one question if the difference between mind and physicality is even worth distinguishing.

goldenkey 9y ago
Right but that link between physicality and mind _is_ consciousness..the perception of qualia. So though they may be caused by the same thing, the process itself is one to be looked at carefully.
- xaedes 9y ago
  So, consciousness is a hologram of the universe? I can imagine it like that. I often describe consciousness/me/you/entities/etc as dynamic lenses of the universe. Something (like information) goes in from all directions and the lens transform that into reaction. I think you could actually extend that view to entities like atoms. Hm, every point is a lens in itself?