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You don’t remember Labour’s ID cards and biometric database? Or their expansion of the surveillance state?
by gaius 9y ago
You don’t remember Labour’s ID cards and biometric database? Or their expansion of the surveillance state?
- pjc50 9y agoLabour were never "liberal", though; this is why trying to map everything onto the "conservative/liberal" dichotomy is a mistake. Old Labour were characterised by a weak state and strong unions; New Labour were characterised by a strong redistributive state that was safe enough for middle-class voters; it remains to be seen what Momentum Labour actually do, if anything.
- gaius 9y agoYes and no. I don’t think the slate gets wiped clean when a new leader is installed. If the Tories are still carrying the legacy of Thatcher then Labour must held to the same standard with Bliar.
- toomanybeersies 9y agoThe problem is that people keep trying to map non-American political systems onto the American political spectrum. Tory vs Labour is a completely different horse race to Republican vs Democrat in the USA. Same goes for most other country's political systems.