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"Excuse me but where did that "ignorance is bliss" come from?" People that don't have freedom and are stuck in one system don't know what they are missing. "B

by rick888 16y ago

"Excuse me but where did that "ignorance is bliss" come from?" People that don't have freedom and are stuck in one system don't know what they are missing. "But the number of people that can afford those in the USA is so small that when you look at the average, most are worse off." The majority of people (last I heard it was > 70%) have some form of health care in the US. Our health care system does need to be reformed, but to say the majority of the population has no health care is just wrong.

nanairo 16y ago
What makes you think that I don't have freedom? Or that I am stuck in my current system? In how many countries have you lived in? Having some form of health care is not the same as having good health care, and most definitely not the same as having the best health care that the USA provides.In fact, I am puzzled how you can quote a statistics like that with a straight face: you are saying that less than 30% of the population doesn't have any form of health care! That's A LOT!!! A quick check online (I don't have time to find better data) gave me this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninsured_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninsured_in_the_United_States which quotes around 15% of the population WITHOUT insurance. And to those you may need to add all those whose insurances don't cover everything you may have.
- yummyfajitas 16y ago
  If you look in more detail, it's not as big a problem as it appears. 14 million are de-facto insured - they are eligible for medicaid but have not bothered to sign up. If they ever require insurance, they can sign up and medicaid will pay for their treatment (medicaid doesn't care about preexisting conditions). Another 23 million are uninsured for 4 months or less, presumably because they declined COBRA. Fun fact, from the wikipedia page: the states with the biggest percentage of uninsured people border Mexico. I wonder how much of the problem could be solved by enforcing immigration law. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/25/who-are-the-uninsured/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/25/who-are-the-...

by rick888 16y ago

nanairo 16y ago

What makes you think that I don't have freedom? Or that I am stuck in my current system? In how many countries have you lived in? Having some form of health care is not the same as having good health care, and most definitely not the same as having the best health care that the USA provides.In fact, I am puzzled how you can quote a statistics like that with a straight face: you are saying that less than 30% of the population doesn't have any form of health care! That's A LOT!!! A quick check online (I don't have time to find better data) gave me this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninsured_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninsured_in_the_United_States which quotes around 15% of the population WITHOUT insurance. And to those you may need to add all those whose insurances don't cover everything you may have.

yummyfajitas 16y ago
If you look in more detail, it's not as big a problem as it appears. 14 million are de-facto insured - they are eligible for medicaid but have not bothered to sign up. If they ever require insurance, they can sign up and medicaid will pay for their treatment (medicaid doesn't care about preexisting conditions). Another 23 million are uninsured for 4 months or less, presumably because they declined COBRA. Fun fact, from the wikipedia page: the states with the biggest percentage of uninsured people border Mexico. I wonder how much of the problem could be solved by enforcing immigration law. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/25/who-are-the-uninsured/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/25/who-are-the-...