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>A lot of Germans use Fb with a fake name anyway To FB the fake name is only yet another datapoint connected to your identity. Make no mistake, they know who y

>A lot of Germans use Fb with a fake name anyway To FB the fake name is only yet another datapoint connected to your identity. Make no mistake, they know who you are and what you did last summer, and can pretty much predict what you will do next summer as well. Or worse, influence what you will do.

mr_toad 9y ago
You can hide from your your boss, your wife, or even your mother, but you can’t hide from Facebook.
- TomMarius 9y ago
  Oh you can, just hit the "power off" button on your device and it'll have zero effects on you.
  - mrguyorama 9y ago
    Except when your friends take pictures of you and upload them. Facebook doesn't need you to have a device to affect you every single day
    - TomMarius 9y ago
      It's not FB who is in the wrong, they have no control over your friends' actions.
      - throwawaymaroon 9y ago
        Or, FB could just not do that stuff.
      - rhizome 9y ago
        Sure, but they have all the control over the result of those actions.
        TomMarius 9y ago
        I'm sure they will delete the illegal content if you ask them to. I've seen it happen several times already, it's a bit lengthy but functioning procedure.
      - s73v3r_ 9y ago
        It very much is FB in the wrong if they are using that data for anything.
        TomMarius 9y ago
        Nope. Somebody breaks a contract and doesn't pay you and it's your fault? What?
  - s73v3r_ 9y ago
    Or, Facebook could just not do that stuff. Part of the problem is that FB still compiles and uses data on people even if they're not FB users. FB assuredly has plenty of data on you, and uses that as they see fit, regardless of if you've agreed to their terms or not. I would hardly consider that to be 'zero effects'.
    - TomMarius 9y ago
      Why wouldn't they? It's their business and you have the option of not doing business with them.
      - s73v3r_ 9y ago
        But I just explained how people don't necessarily have that choice, given that they still collect data on people who are not members of Facebook.
        TomMarius 9y ago
        So how exactly do they collect data on people who are not on FB? Through websites with their tracking codes - and that's why the EU introduced so called 'cookie law' that says a website can't track you until you give consent (e.g. by continuing to use the website). There's of course the way of other people giving them your data such as photos of you - but that's illegal and against FB TOS.
        mziel 9y ago
        I will repeat my comment as you seem to be repeating the same argument. It's not "consent" as understood by GPDR and ePrivacy. You had no recourse not to give it, therefore it was not willing and informed. Implied consent ("agree or leave") is not deemed sufficient by GDPR. According to the law you can't condition the service you're providing on collecting unrelated (to that service) data.
        TomMarius 9y ago

mr_toad 9y ago

You can hide from your your boss, your wife, or even your mother, but you can’t hide from Facebook.

TomMarius 9y ago
Oh you can, just hit the "power off" button on your device and it'll have zero effects on you.
- mrguyorama 9y ago
  Except when your friends take pictures of you and upload them. Facebook doesn't need you to have a device to affect you every single day
  - TomMarius 9y ago
    It's not FB who is in the wrong, they have no control over your friends' actions.
    - throwawaymaroon 9y ago
      Or, FB could just not do that stuff.
    - rhizome 9y ago
      Sure, but they have all the control over the result of those actions.
      - TomMarius 9y ago
        I'm sure they will delete the illegal content if you ask them to. I've seen it happen several times already, it's a bit lengthy but functioning procedure.
    - s73v3r_ 9y ago
      It very much is FB in the wrong if they are using that data for anything.
      - TomMarius 9y ago
        Nope. Somebody breaks a contract and doesn't pay you and it's your fault? What?
- s73v3r_ 9y ago
  Or, Facebook could just not do that stuff. Part of the problem is that FB still compiles and uses data on people even if they're not FB users. FB assuredly has plenty of data on you, and uses that as they see fit, regardless of if you've agreed to their terms or not. I would hardly consider that to be 'zero effects'.
  - TomMarius 9y ago
    Why wouldn't they? It's their business and you have the option of not doing business with them.
    - s73v3r_ 9y ago
      But I just explained how people don't necessarily have that choice, given that they still collect data on people who are not members of Facebook.
      - TomMarius 9y ago
        So how exactly do they collect data on people who are not on FB? Through websites with their tracking codes - and that's why the EU introduced so called 'cookie law' that says a website can't track you until you give consent (e.g. by continuing to use the website). There's of course the way of other people giving them your data such as photos of you - but that's illegal and against FB TOS.
        mziel 9y ago
        I will repeat my comment as you seem to be repeating the same argument. It's not "consent" as understood by GPDR and ePrivacy. You had no recourse not to give it, therefore it was not willing and informed. Implied consent ("agree or leave") is not deemed sufficient by GDPR. According to the law you can't condition the service you're providing on collecting unrelated (to that service) data.
        TomMarius 9y ago