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If you don't know anything about ordinance, it's easy to assume to explosives go inert after 70+ years of lying dormant. "If it hasn't exploded in all this time

If you don't know anything about ordinance, it's easy to assume to explosives go inert after 70+ years of lying dormant. "If it hasn't exploded in all this time, why would it go off now?"

chrisseaton 9y ago
That doesn't make any sense. > "If it hasn't exploded in all this time, why would it go off now?" This explains why someone might be (erroneously) confident that it won't spontaneously go off, but even if that was right, saying it hasn't spontaneously gone off doesn't tell you anything about what will happen if you instead activate the mechanism. Why would they conclude it's inert from the fact that it hasn't spontaneously gone off? Even if their understanding of explosives is wrong, they must still understand that it's an offence to have these munitions?
- rectang 9y ago
  Statistically, some percentage of the people will get it wrong. Instead of railing against them for being stupid, why not just accept that "people being wrong" is an inevitable natural phenomenon?
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- mikeash 9y ago
  Most mechanisms break down and stop working after decades of sitting in a field with no maintenance. The fact that bombs might still work is surprising.
  - jotm 9y ago
    The actual bomb lasts way longer than the safeguard.
    - KMag 9y ago
      Also, picric acid was a popular filler for WWI shells, and picric acid tends to react with metal casings over to form picric acid salts, which are very shock/friction (and potentially vibration) sensitive. Also, be careful of first aid kits from that era, as they sometimes used picric acid as an antiseptic on gauze, often in contact with a metal case...
      - mikeash 9y ago
        You mean that old first aid kits might explode if disturbed?!
        KMag 9y ago
        No need to panic, but yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picric_acid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picric_acid > In the early 20th century, picric acid was stocked in pharmacies as an antiseptic and as a treatment for burns, malaria, herpes, and smallpox. Picric acid-soaked gauze was also commonly stocked in first aid kits from that period as a burn treatment. On the slightly positive side, picric acid also sublimates, but I'm not sure how long it would take for evaporate from the first aid kit. On the other hand, sublimation also increases the surface area of any metal container for forming metallic picrates.
        mikeash 9y ago
        I’m not panicking, but wow. I did not expect to learn this sort of thing today. Amazing.

If you don't know anything about ordinance, it's easy to assume to explosives go inert after 70+ years of lying dormant. "If it hasn't exploded in all this time, why would it go off now?"

chrisseaton 9y ago

That doesn't make any sense. > "If it hasn't exploded in all this time, why would it go off now?" This explains why someone might be (erroneously) confident that it won't spontaneously go off, but even if that was right, saying it hasn't spontaneously gone off doesn't tell you anything about what will happen if you instead activate the mechanism. Why would they conclude it's inert from the fact that it hasn't spontaneously gone off? Even if their understanding of explosives is wrong, they must still understand that it's an offence to have these munitions?

rectang 9y ago
Statistically, some percentage of the people will get it wrong. Instead of railing against them for being stupid, why not just accept that "people being wrong" is an inevitable natural phenomenon?
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mikeash 9y ago
Most mechanisms break down and stop working after decades of sitting in a field with no maintenance. The fact that bombs might still work is surprising.
- jotm 9y ago
  The actual bomb lasts way longer than the safeguard.
  - KMag 9y ago
    Also, picric acid was a popular filler for WWI shells, and picric acid tends to react with metal casings over to form picric acid salts, which are very shock/friction (and potentially vibration) sensitive. Also, be careful of first aid kits from that era, as they sometimes used picric acid as an antiseptic on gauze, often in contact with a metal case...
    - mikeash 9y ago
      You mean that old first aid kits might explode if disturbed?!
      - KMag 9y ago
        No need to panic, but yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picric_acid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picric_acid > In the early 20th century, picric acid was stocked in pharmacies as an antiseptic and as a treatment for burns, malaria, herpes, and smallpox. Picric acid-soaked gauze was also commonly stocked in first aid kits from that period as a burn treatment. On the slightly positive side, picric acid also sublimates, but I'm not sure how long it would take for evaporate from the first aid kit. On the other hand, sublimation also increases the surface area of any metal container for forming metallic picrates.
        mikeash 9y ago
        I’m not panicking, but wow. I did not expect to learn this sort of thing today. Amazing.