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> There isn't even a single post here in this thread (and there are 171 right now) that says something to effect of "This LED thing is cool, but Apple drops the

> There isn't even a single post here in this thread (and there are 171 right now) that says something to effect of "This LED thing is cool, but Apple drops the ball on <insert xyz widely known problem>". Uh, yes there is. My post, which is currently right below yours (edit: well, it was), explicitly acknowledges that fact. I also wrote another comment about a Mac OS menu behavior that I dislike, which has been voted up, not down. mkramlich also mentioned his problems with iOS 4 on an iPhone 3G here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1635018 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1635018. I'm not sure where you get the idea that Apple fans "religiously ignore" problems with their products. Do you actually spend time on the support forums, or various Apple-centric sites? I've never met an Apple fan that thought Apple was 100% perfect. Does every single thread appreciative of something a company is good at need to prominently feature criticisms of everything that company is bad at as well? Of course not. Your criticism is silly, and smacks of typical, petty anti-Apple resentment. > Instead we get north of 170 posts, all breathlessly agreeing that they wish Apple could have their child. You lost any pretense of trying to provide the voice of reason here.

elblanco 16y ago
Apple is wonderfully mimicked, never really copied. The company's aesthetic is truly unique and standard setting. We cam both be best friends over that. My mbp gets far too much use for a 4 year old piece of hardware. And it still resumes from sleep better than my brand new dell studio running win7 does. I'm actually impressed that you can bring yourself to acknowledge minor bubbles in posts like http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1634581 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1634581. But that same post waxed on to almost absurd levels of pseudo philosophical anthropomorphism. And that's the type hystrionics I'm talking about.
- dieterrams 16y ago
  > But that same post waxed on to almost absurd levels of pseudo philosophical anthropomorphism. And that's the type hystrionics I'm talking about. "almost absurd levels of pseudo philosophical anthropomorphism"? Are you reading that post correctly? When I said "Truly personal computers," I'm not saying the computers are like persons. I'm saying that they fit people to a far greater degree than any other PC I've ever seen.
  - elblanco 16y ago
    Apparently I'm not of the set "people".
nanairo 16y ago
To be honest I found the Apple community one of the most demanding around. After a new OS arrives, you can hear people complain of the smallest minutia. For example I remember a post by a famous developer that complained when Apple introduced the 3D dock... because the prospective of the dock was not the same as those the HGI asked for the icons... and so it looked wrong. In the same period, people also complained that the 3D dock didn't work well when the dock was put on the left/right of the screen... eventually Apple moved back to the old version for those cases. There's been complains about font changes, about inconsistent looks, about too much colour or too little colour, and the list goes on.

elblanco 16y ago

Apple is wonderfully mimicked, never really copied. The company's aesthetic is truly unique and standard setting. We cam both be best friends over that. My mbp gets far too much use for a 4 year old piece of hardware. And it still resumes from sleep better than my brand new dell studio running win7 does. I'm actually impressed that you can bring yourself to acknowledge minor bubbles in posts like http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1634581 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1634581. But that same post waxed on to almost absurd levels of pseudo philosophical anthropomorphism. And that's the type hystrionics I'm talking about.

dieterrams 16y ago
> But that same post waxed on to almost absurd levels of pseudo philosophical anthropomorphism. And that's the type hystrionics I'm talking about. "almost absurd levels of pseudo philosophical anthropomorphism"? Are you reading that post correctly? When I said "Truly personal computers," I'm not saying the computers are like persons. I'm saying that they fit people to a far greater degree than any other PC I've ever seen.
- elblanco 16y ago
  Apparently I'm not of the set "people".

nanairo 16y ago

To be honest I found the Apple community one of the most demanding around. After a new OS arrives, you can hear people complain of the smallest minutia. For example I remember a post by a famous developer that complained when Apple introduced the 3D dock... because the prospective of the dock was not the same as those the HGI asked for the icons... and so it looked wrong. In the same period, people also complained that the 3D dock didn't work well when the dock was put on the left/right of the screen... eventually Apple moved back to the old version for those cases. There's been complains about font changes, about inconsistent looks, about too much colour or too little colour, and the list goes on.