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I doubt the language is a problem, young kids pick it up extremely fast. I, myself, moved to the US in my 20's, and had no major problem assimilating. For the f

I doubt the language is a problem, young kids pick it up extremely fast. I, myself, moved to the US in my 20's, and had no major problem assimilating. For the first few months I didn't speak English, my father would help me everywhere. But then I had to go to college, took ESL classes for a semester, and then started taking normal college classes. I doubt it's poverty, I grew up very very poor (as many of my classmates did). Didn't stop me from getting good education.

blasteye 9y ago
Test scores show otherwise: http://laschoolreport.com/latinos-and-english-learners-are-biggest-losers-in-las-new-test-scores/ http://laschoolreport.com/latinos-and-english-learners-are-b... The majority of LA's Latino / Illegal Immigrant student body failed their standardized tests. 66% failed english language arts 76% failed math And Latino's also had ~5% more kids failing than the average of LA's Scores. Its a fair argument that removing this population from the schools increase the % of kids who pass these tests by more than 5%. " The percentage of LA’s Latino students who met or exceeded state academic expectations this year: 34 percent in English language arts, less than 1 percentage point higher than in 2016 24 percent in math, less than 1 percentage point higher than in 2016 The district’s overall average this year was 39.55 percent in English language arts and 29.86 in math. The percentage of Latino students in California who met or exceeded standards this year: 26.05 percent in English language arts, the same as in 2016 16.89 percent in math, slightly lower than in 2016 The state’s overall average this year was 48.56 percent in English language arts and 37.53 percent in math. "
- marcell 9y ago
  > The majority of LA's Latino / Illegal Immigrant student body failed their standardized tests. You seem to be conflating two groups: "illegal" immigrants, and Latinos. They are separate groups. > Its a fair argument that removing this population from the schools increase... While this is true, this is also the type of ethnic engineering that isn't acceptable in modern society in the United States. We don't remove ethnic populations in order to increase a test score number.
  - jtx1 9y ago
    Who are you to state what is generally acceptable in the United States?
  - blasteye 9y ago
    THe illegal immigrant population in k-12 in California schools are majority latino/hispanic. Therefore removing the illegal immigrant population from said schooling would reduce the latino population in the school. If latino's are scoring poorly, then removing some % of them (due to their illegal immigrant status) would raise test scores overall. > While this is true, this is also the type of ethnic engineering that isn't acceptable in modern society in the United States. We don't remove ethnic populations in order to increase a test score number. Hu? I never was talking about ethnic engineering. I was talking about enforcing our immigration laws.
    - dragonwriter 9y ago
      > THe illegal immigrant population in k-12 in California schools are majority latino/hispanic. Sure, but you can't use generic statistics about Latinos—who in California are mostly not immigrants, much less illegal, and pretend they are specifically about illegal immigrants, or even accurate for illegal immigrants (fallacy of division.)
- guelo 9y ago
  Immigrants assimilate in a couple generations. Parents instilling ambition and hard work in their children is what makes America strong.
  - blasteye 9y ago
    You can't compare H1b/legal immigrants to illegal immigrants, they have vastly different educational backgrounds.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > The majority of LA's Latino / Illegal Immigrant student body failed their standardized tests. The source you cite gives numbers for Latinos and English Learners, neither of which are equivalent to “illegal immigrants”.

blasteye 9y ago

Test scores show otherwise: http://laschoolreport.com/latinos-and-english-learners-are-biggest-losers-in-las-new-test-scores/ http://laschoolreport.com/latinos-and-english-learners-are-b... The majority of LA's Latino / Illegal Immigrant student body failed their standardized tests. 66% failed english language arts 76% failed math And Latino's also had ~5% more kids failing than the average of LA's Scores. Its a fair argument that removing this population from the schools increase the % of kids who pass these tests by more than 5%. " The percentage of LA’s Latino students who met or exceeded state academic expectations this year: 34 percent in English language arts, less than 1 percentage point higher than in 2016 24 percent in math, less than 1 percentage point higher than in 2016 The district’s overall average this year was 39.55 percent in English language arts and 29.86 in math. The percentage of Latino students in California who met or exceeded standards this year: 26.05 percent in English language arts, the same as in 2016 16.89 percent in math, slightly lower than in 2016 The state’s overall average this year was 48.56 percent in English language arts and 37.53 percent in math. "

marcell 9y ago
> The majority of LA's Latino / Illegal Immigrant student body failed their standardized tests. You seem to be conflating two groups: "illegal" immigrants, and Latinos. They are separate groups. > Its a fair argument that removing this population from the schools increase... While this is true, this is also the type of ethnic engineering that isn't acceptable in modern society in the United States. We don't remove ethnic populations in order to increase a test score number.
- jtx1 9y ago
  Who are you to state what is generally acceptable in the United States?
- blasteye 9y ago
  THe illegal immigrant population in k-12 in California schools are majority latino/hispanic. Therefore removing the illegal immigrant population from said schooling would reduce the latino population in the school. If latino's are scoring poorly, then removing some % of them (due to their illegal immigrant status) would raise test scores overall. > While this is true, this is also the type of ethnic engineering that isn't acceptable in modern society in the United States. We don't remove ethnic populations in order to increase a test score number. Hu? I never was talking about ethnic engineering. I was talking about enforcing our immigration laws.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > THe illegal immigrant population in k-12 in California schools are majority latino/hispanic. Sure, but you can't use generic statistics about Latinos—who in California are mostly not immigrants, much less illegal, and pretend they are specifically about illegal immigrants, or even accurate for illegal immigrants (fallacy of division.)
guelo 9y ago
Immigrants assimilate in a couple generations. Parents instilling ambition and hard work in their children is what makes America strong.
- blasteye 9y ago
  You can't compare H1b/legal immigrants to illegal immigrants, they have vastly different educational backgrounds.
dragonwriter 9y ago
> The majority of LA's Latino / Illegal Immigrant student body failed their standardized tests. The source you cite gives numbers for Latinos and English Learners, neither of which are equivalent to “illegal immigrants”.