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Amazing in two ways. First that a company would deny a vacation request. Vacation is something that you schedule with your manager, not that you ask for. It'

Amazing in two ways. First that a company would deny a vacation request. Vacation is something that you schedule with your manager, not that you ask for. It's vacation. Of course you're going. You're just letting them know when. Second that anybody would try to have such an obvious email conversation over slack. That doesn't seem like a good use for group chat. For the reason you describe. Good on you for escaping that place!

toomanybeersies 9y ago
It never struck me as good company policy to have all leave requests in a public channel visible to all company employees. I think that this solution came about because the company had a very strong dislike of email for some reason. All support was done using Intercom.io, rather than email and all company communications were done in Slack. I don't think I sent a single email in the 2 years I worked there. Being able to create a direct message with a topic would've been the ideal solution, which is literally what email is.
mattmanser 9y ago
It's perfectly normal for companies to deny leave requests, especially smaller ones. One common reason is simply boots on the ground, can't have everyone take the same day off. Deadlines, if I ask for leave in the last week before a deadline. You might be thinking from a programming perspective but imagine your whole support team taking the same two weeks off. There are loads of reasonable, practical, reasons to deny leave. Every company policy in the UK will usually clearly state don't book tickets, etc. until approval. Vaguely related, here in the UK there are people who get a bad rep for being greedy by blocking off certain holiday before other people as soon as the year gets 'released' e.g. booking every Friday before a bank holiday Monday off, so no-one else can. Good managers will shut down that behaviour and tell them they can only take X of them, as it causes resentments.

toomanybeersies 9y ago

It never struck me as good company policy to have all leave requests in a public channel visible to all company employees. I think that this solution came about because the company had a very strong dislike of email for some reason. All support was done using Intercom.io, rather than email and all company communications were done in Slack. I don't think I sent a single email in the 2 years I worked there. Being able to create a direct message with a topic would've been the ideal solution, which is literally what email is.

mattmanser 9y ago

It's perfectly normal for companies to deny leave requests, especially smaller ones. One common reason is simply boots on the ground, can't have everyone take the same day off. Deadlines, if I ask for leave in the last week before a deadline. You might be thinking from a programming perspective but imagine your whole support team taking the same two weeks off. There are loads of reasonable, practical, reasons to deny leave. Every company policy in the UK will usually clearly state don't book tickets, etc. until approval. Vaguely related, here in the UK there are people who get a bad rep for being greedy by blocking off certain holiday before other people as soon as the year gets 'released' e.g. booking every Friday before a bank holiday Monday off, so no-one else can. Good managers will shut down that behaviour and tell them they can only take X of them, as it causes resentments.