I am also hoping for guile Emacs, but I am pretty sure I am hoping in vain. The amount of bikeshedding going on in emacs-devel even for small non-controversial

I am also hoping for guile Emacs, but I am pretty sure I am hoping in vain. The amount of bikeshedding going on in emacs-devel even for small non-controversial changes can sometimes take humorous proportions. I have used guile-emacs and back then even org-mode ran fine. Elisp-compatibility is very close to 100%, and the runtime is getting better by the week (guile3 will do native compilation!), but nothing will ever be enough. So instead of having a runtime not bound to Emacs, with all the cons that would have with libraries and such (Imagine a guile-orgmode that contained the vital parts of org scirptable in guile without Emacs), we are stuck with a language tethered to an editor bound to be just an extension language.